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punkyjewster41 · 08-06-2004, 07:33 PM

Ive been reading this site for about a year but rarely post, anyway i just wanna know what you guys think/know about the element. Im in pretty dire need of a new car ( 95 ford probe 130k+ miles = pile of crap) and i was looking at the element and it seemed pretty practical, save for the crap gas mileage. I wanted something with honda reliability plus something i could fit all my music equipment in, also i move around alot so the interior room would come in handy, and the mp3 jack caught my attention so in all it seemed like a good idea. Some people say its just a sucky car, probably because they dont like the looks, but ive heard others say its a good deal. Ive looked around on the internet but havent found much info on it. Ive also been considering a scion tc, but im torn. Tear me a new one if you guys think the element is totally ghey, just wanted to know what you guys's opinion was, thanks.

92CivicCx · 08-06-2004, 07:37 PM

i love it... its my fav boxy car out right now

Battle Pope · 08-06-2004, 07:38 PM

Ghey. :vomit:

Honestly, I'd look into a Scion Xb. As boxy and disproportional as they are, I think they're really cool. Good mileage, not a LOT smaller than an Element, and a lot better looking :P

Plus they start at 16k

asmallsol · 08-06-2004, 07:52 PM

My parents actually own an Element. Butt ugly IMO, but its a nice car. Kinda slow, and the gas millage isn't that good (areo dynamics of a brick, heavy, and is an SUV at heart) The Inteior is the best part about the car. The seats are water proof, so if you leave your windows down, it doesn't matter. It doesn't have carpet, so if you spill coffee, just wipe it up. Makes cleaning MUCH easier. The back seat is pretty cool too, in that you can just fold them flat to make a bed, and if you ever need room, fold them flat, then relase them from the floor and they piviot and attach to the side walls.

Doors are cool with the clam sheel. Down side is blind spots are kinda big. Same thing with the a-pillar (huge). Clam shell rear hatch is nice too. For an SUV its not bad. I sure that it would fucking blow off road, but in the snow, it was fun as hell to drive. I found snow drifts from plows that were about 2 feet high, and I could just run right over them, with zero effort. One day when it snowed a good 10 inches and the streets had not been plowed yet, I had a shit load of fun going around corners gassing it, having the back wheels spin a little and "drifting"

It kinda makes me want a Scobie Impreza RS (98-01?) with Tein Dirt suspension and some sweet snow tires and have fun with that.

also

wrong forum.

FFCiv · 08-06-2004, 08:12 PM

scion tc or xb dude

Havok · 08-06-2004, 08:15 PM

It's great if I owned a SUV/boxy thing. you can hose out the inside when you go to the beach, fold the seats down to fit in surf and skim boards, and all that good shit. Better than topless sol with a longboard sticking out of the passenger side

Airjockie · 08-06-2004, 08:22 PM

Well....not to dis a honda product...but whats you price range?

My buddies mom got a forester, has the same engine as the STI, and is a super sleeper...plus the boost is good....or look into a CRV...has almost everything you need for Honda Comfort...then again the box of the Scion is not to bad, I saw a couple that was pimp....

Then again...if your on a budget..the old Toyota Mini vans were sweet...I had two of them, and mechanically...I never had a problem. One van was fully gutted and had my scuba gear and a moped in it, and all my camping stuff, while the other one was loaded with seats and in-car intertainment system...both were great vans, and got good milage....some people here car them MoonVans...but I don't see the corralation for it.

Celerity · 08-06-2004, 11:35 PM

you can put a 5MGE in a moonvan.

Seriously, I use a 1987 Toyota 4Runner. It gets (or got, before mine was run into the ground) 30 mpg. It's SUPER slow though.

If you're a honda fanatic, grab a 1999 CRV. I remember you couldn't get NEAR these things only a year ago, now everyone seems to have forgotten about them. As far as swaps, the B20B is really the best you can do, but a stroked B20 with a supercharger might be keen. It would cost about $5000 to get done, but you'll have a mover and a shaker.

-> Steve

punkyjewster41 · 08-07-2004, 08:43 PM

thanks for the replies guys. i went looking into the tc today and found it has about as good gas mileage as the element ( 21-22mpg) and it doesnt have nearly as much interior room being a coupe/sports car, so i dunno, im planning on going to test drive some cars this weekend.

Krypton · 08-10-2004, 10:41 PM

i drove an element, i think there actually really sweet. my uncle was able to fit a computer with a touch screen monitor right in the front console with no problems. the vehicle may look ugly but, they still ride like a dream.

JDMilan · 08-10-2004, 11:35 PM

not to change topic: AJ did you just say the forrester has the 2.5liter STi motor?????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ???????

TurboMirage · 08-12-2004, 09:13 AM

all models do.

Available Engines:
168-hp, 2.5-liter H-4
210-hp, 2.5-liter H-4

dohcvtec_accord · 08-12-2004, 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by JDMilan@Aug 10 2004, 08:35 PM
not to change topic: AJ did you just say the forrester has the 2.5liter STi motor?????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ???????

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all models do.

Available Engines:
168-hp, 2.5-liter H-4
210-hp, 2.5-liter H-4

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No, the STi is equipped with an EJ257 engine (300 horsepower, bigger turbo, better cams, better heads, big intercooler, etc). The Legacy GT's are equipped with the EJ255 engine (250 horsepower, decent intercooler). The turbo Foresters are also equipped with the EJ255 engine (detuned to 210 horsepower, small-ass intercooler. About the only thing the three cars have in common is that they're 2.5-liter turbo engines.

Please don't get them confused.

JDMilan · 08-13-2004, 08:14 PM

thats fucking awesome,,,,,,,what a bad ass sleeper daily driver!!!!!!

JDMilan · 08-13-2004, 08:30 PM

ACCELERATION (Seconds)
Zero to 30 mph: 1.3
40 mph: 2.6
50 mph: 3.6
60 mph: 5.3
70 mph: 6.9
80 mph: 9.2
90 mph: 11.8
100 mph: 15.0
110 mph: 19.5
120 mph: 26.7
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.3
Top-gear acceleration, 30-50 mph: 8.4
50-70 mph: 8.1
Standing 1/4-mile: 13.8 sec @ 97 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 129 mph

Damn, not bad for a stationwagon

08-06-2004, 07:33 PM	#1
punkyjewster41 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 260 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 13	Ive been reading this site for about a year but rarely post, anyway i just wanna know what you guys think/know about the element. Im in pretty dire need of a new car ( 95 ford probe 130k+ miles = pile of crap) and i was looking at the element and it seemed pretty practical, save for the crap gas mileage. I wanted something with honda reliability plus something i could fit all my music equipment in, also i move around alot so the interior room would come in handy, and the mp3 jack caught my attention so in all it seemed like a good idea. Some people say its just a sucky car, probably because they dont like the looks, but ive heard others say its a good deal. Ive looked around on the internet but havent found much info on it. Ive also been considering a scion tc, but im torn. Tear me a new one if you guys think the element is totally ghey, just wanted to know what you guys's opinion was, thanks. __________________ the jewish guy

08-06-2004, 07:37 PM	#2
92CivicCx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: man+k+toe Posts: 5,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 64	i love it... its my fav boxy car out right now __________________ current cars 1996 accord ex, new dd 2000 Plymouth Voyager, wifes whip www.fivezeroseven.com

08-06-2004, 07:52 PM	#4
asmallsol Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houghton/Livonia Michigan Age: 22 Posts: 8,093 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 del Sol Gas sipper Rep Power: 95	My parents actually own an Element. Butt ugly IMO, but its a nice car. Kinda slow, and the gas millage isn't that good (areo dynamics of a brick, heavy, and is an SUV at heart) The Inteior is the best part about the car. The seats are water proof, so if you leave your windows down, it doesn't matter. It doesn't have carpet, so if you spill coffee, just wipe it up. Makes cleaning MUCH easier. The back seat is pretty cool too, in that you can just fold them flat to make a bed, and if you ever need room, fold them flat, then relase them from the floor and they piviot and attach to the side walls. Doors are cool with the clam sheel. Down side is blind spots are kinda big. Same thing with the a-pillar (huge). Clam shell rear hatch is nice too. For an SUV its not bad. I sure that it would fucking blow off road, but in the snow, it was fun as hell to drive. I found snow drifts from plows that were about 2 feet high, and I could just run right over them, with zero effort. One day when it snowed a good 10 inches and the streets had not been plowed yet, I had a shit load of fun going around corners gassing it, having the back wheels spin a little and "drifting" It kinda makes me want a Scobie Impreza RS (98-01?) with Tein Dirt suspension and some sweet snow tires and have fun with that. also wrong forum. __________________ Collin Material Science and Engineering Michigan Technological University

08-06-2004, 08:12 PM	#5
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08-06-2004, 08:15 PM	#6
Havok Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 6,824 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 81	It's great if I owned a SUV/boxy thing. you can hose out the inside when you go to the beach, fold the seats down to fit in surf and skim boards, and all that good shit. Better than topless sol with a longboard sticking out of the passenger side __________________ My skin is singed but it heals my heart and with glowing pride I'll wear my scars. I'm honored by your hatred! She wanted love, I taste of blood. She bit my lip and drank my warmth from years before.


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08-06-2004, 08:22 PM	#7
Airjockie Watanabe Whore!!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Meriden, CT, USA Age: 36 Posts: 9,317 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: datsuns & Subarus Rep Power: 132	Well....not to dis a honda product...but whats you price range? My buddies mom got a forester, has the same engine as the STI, and is a super sleeper...plus the boost is good....or look into a CRV...has almost everything you need for Honda Comfort...then again the box of the Scion is not to bad, I saw a couple that was pimp.... Then again...if your on a budget..the old Toyota Mini vans were sweet...I had two of them, and mechanically...I never had a problem. One van was fully gutted and had my scuba gear and a moped in it, and all my camping stuff, while the other one was loaded with seats and in-car intertainment system...both were great vans, and got good milage....some people here car them MoonVans...but I don't see the corralation for it. __________________ 俺の奥さんちょーーカワイイわいは毎日ドリフトに行きたいんやーめっちゃ遅い車運転してるでーしかしー Current Debt=$228,049.42 (01/08) Current Debt=$222,000.00 (03/08) Current Debt=$218,885.00 (04/08) Current Debt=$215,018.00 (06/08) Current Debt=$213,081.42 (10/08)

08-07-2004, 08:43 PM	#9
punkyjewster41 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 260 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 13	thanks for the replies guys. i went looking into the tc today and found it has about as good gas mileage as the element ( 21-22mpg) and it doesnt have nearly as much interior room being a coupe/sports car, so i dunno, im planning on going to test drive some cars this weekend. __________________ the jewish guy

08-10-2004, 10:41 PM	#10
Krypton Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NothEast Ohio Posts: 42 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	i drove an element, i think there actually really sweet. my uncle was able to fit a computer with a touch screen monitor right in the front console with no problems. the vehicle may look ugly but, they still ride like a dream. __________________ -=KRypT=-

08-10-2004, 11:35 PM	#11
JDMilan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 6,734 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 79	not to change topic: AJ did you just say the forrester has the 2.5liter STi motor?????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ??????? __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">"92 Blue EG"</span> -Project 3 - Motor A (NA stock SiR longblock B16 EG/S1tran) 14.3@97 15" radial tires & Gutted -Project 3 - Motor B (NA stock SiRII longblock B16 EG/S4tran) 13.3@103 MT's & Gutted <span style=\"color:red\">"Goldy S13"</span> -Project 4 - Motor A (FI SR20DET w/T28 "Under Construction&quot <span style=\"color:red\">"Silver E46"</span> -Project 5 - Motor A (???)

08-12-2004, 09:13 AM	#12
TurboMirage Running on two cylinders Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southbridge, MA Age: 24 Posts: 16,181 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer RPW E5 Coupe Rep Power: 219	all models do. Available Engines: 168-hp, 2.5-liter H-4 210-hp, 2.5-liter H-4 __________________ Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe. See what is done to the Little EVO5

08-13-2004, 08:14 PM	#14
JDMilan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 6,734 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 79	thats fucking awesome,,,,,,,what a bad ass sleeper daily driver!!!!!! __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">"92 Blue EG"</span> -Project 3 - Motor A (NA stock SiR longblock B16 EG/S1tran) 14.3@97 15" radial tires & Gutted -Project 3 - Motor B (NA stock SiRII longblock B16 EG/S4tran) 13.3@103 MT's & Gutted <span style=\"color:red\">"Goldy S13"</span> -Project 4 - Motor A (FI SR20DET w/T28 "Under Construction&quot <span style=\"color:red\">"Silver E46"</span> -Project 5 - Motor A (???)

08-13-2004, 08:30 PM	#15
JDMilan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 6,734 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 79	ACCELERATION (Seconds) Zero to 30 mph: 1.3 40 mph: 2.6 50 mph: 3.6 60 mph: 5.3 70 mph: 6.9 80 mph: 9.2 90 mph: 11.8 100 mph: 15.0 110 mph: 19.5 120 mph: 26.7 Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.3 Top-gear acceleration, 30-50 mph: 8.4 50-70 mph: 8.1 Standing 1/4-mile: 13.8 sec @ 97 mph Top speed (governor limited): 129 mph Damn, not bad for a stationwagon __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">"92 Blue EG"</span> -Project 3 - Motor A (NA stock SiR longblock B16 EG/S1tran) 14.3@97 15" radial tires & Gutted -Project 3 - Motor B (NA stock SiRII longblock B16 EG/S4tran) 13.3@103 MT's & Gutted <span style=\"color:red\">"Goldy S13"</span> -Project 4 - Motor A (FI SR20DET w/T28 "Under Construction&quot <span style=\"color:red\">"Silver E46"</span> -Project 5 - Motor A (???)

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