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silver · 11-21-2005, 11:23 AM

Well, injectors are on and fuel management is working fine. However, I've ALREADY maxed this turbo, and only at 28 lbs/min of airflow too instead of the ~35 I was hoping for. For the record this is on a 95 GSX with a big T28. Sure I should be satisfied though, with that kind of airflow I'm making a good 250-280 awhp based on other logs I've seen of AWD DSMs...

But when are we ever satisfied? It's time for a bigger turbo 300 awhp or bust [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r.gif[/img]

TurboMirage · 11-21-2005, 11:40 AM

get an 18g.

phyregod · 11-21-2005, 11:48 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(silver @ Nov 21 2005, 12:23 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Well, injectors are on and fuel management is working fine. However, I've ALREADY maxed this turbo, and only at 28 lbs/min of airflow too instead of the ~35 I was hoping for. For the record this is on a 95 GSX with a big T28. Sure I should be satisfied though, with that kind of airflow I'm making a good 250-280 awhp based on other logs I've seen of AWD DSMs...

But when are we ever satisfied? It's time for a bigger turbo 300 awhp or bust [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r.gif[/img]
[/b][/quote]
I hope this isn't a daily driver.. 35 psi??

RRRRRROoooooooooommmmmmmOOOOOOOAAAA AAA BANG!

pissedoffsol · 11-21-2005, 11:50 AM

why would you want an 18g??? he'd have to get a whole new manifold and everything....

bolt it on y0
http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/gt2871r.html

TurboMirage · 11-21-2005, 12:49 PM

yummy. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif[/img]

pissedoffsol · 11-21-2005, 02:27 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phyregod @ Nov 21 2005, 11:48 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(silver @ Nov 21 2005, 12:23 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
only at 28 lbs/min of airflow too instead of the ~35 I was hoping for.
[/b][/quote]
I hope this isn't a daily driver.. 35 psi??

RRRRRROoooooooooommmmmmmOOOOOOOAAAA AAA BANG!
[/b][/quote]

lbs/min is NOT psi.

cfm is volume.
psi is pressure.

apples and oranges

and we aren't making juice

EGProject · 11-21-2005, 02:30 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pissedoffsol @ Nov 21 2005, 02:27 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phyregod @ Nov 21 2005, 11:48 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(silver @ Nov 21 2005, 12:23 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
only at 28 lbs/min of airflow too instead of the ~35 I was hoping for.
[/b][/quote]
I hope this isn't a daily driver.. 35 psi??

RRRRRROoooooooooommmmmmmOOOOOOOAAAA AAA BANG!
[/b][/quote]

lbs/min is NOT psi.

cfm is volume.
psi is pressure.

apples and oranges

and we aren't making juice
[/b][/quote]

Fucking hilarious. Quite possibly info-worthy.

silver · 11-21-2005, 03:57 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pissedoffsol @ Nov 21 2005, 01:27 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phyregod @ Nov 21 2005, 11:48 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(silver @ Nov 21 2005, 12:23 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
only at 28 lbs/min of airflow too instead of the ~35 I was hoping for.
[/b][/quote]
I hope this isn't a daily driver.. 35 psi??

RRRRRROoooooooooommmmmmmOOOOOOOAAAA AAA BANG!
[/b][/quote]

lbs/min is NOT psi.

cfm is volume.
psi is pressure.

apples and oranges

and we aren't making juice
[/b][/quote]

[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

good stuff

18g doesn't need another manifold, but more power can be made from the evo 3 16g's that are so popular now. I have about 1200 to blow maybe, looking towards a 50 trim variant and some cams, that should be good for 50% more airflow easily eh. 370+ awhp or bust now [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r.gif[/img]

pissedoffsol · 11-21-2005, 04:05 PM

how does a mistu flanged 18g fit a t25 flanged mani???

silver · 11-21-2005, 04:09 PM

The key is that they're both mitsu flanged. 18g's will most likely use the TD05H turbine housing, which definitely bolts on to a 2g manifold. You may have heard that 16g/18g/20g/25g's don't bolt on to the 2g's in general, but that's due to the turbos firing upward and the difference in oil feed configurations.

NissanNiNjA2nd · 11-21-2005, 05:20 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pissedoffsol @ Nov 21 2005, 05:05 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
how does a mistu flanged 18g fit a t25 flanged mani???
[/b][/quote]

cuz mitsu turbos have the same bolt holes that the T-2 series do.

and for some reasons I dont see you maxing out the t25 at 35psi and only making 300whp...

silver · 11-22-2005, 02:54 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NissanNiNjA2 nd @ Nov 21 2005, 04:20 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
cuz mitsu turbos have the same bolt holes that the T-2 series do.

and for some reasons I dont see you maxing out the t25 at 35psi and only making 300whp...
[/b][/quote]

Once again, it's not a t25, I'm not running 35 psi of boost, and I'm not making 300 awhp.

pissedoffsol · 11-22-2005, 09:37 AM

ROFL!

TurboMirage · 11-22-2005, 09:45 AM

this thread is full of various amounts of ownage.

stick with your subarus, nissans, and hondas kids [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

formby · 11-22-2005, 10:50 AM

why dont you buy a holset.....
and this
http://www.bullseye-power.com/product_info...&products_id=56

Celerity · 11-22-2005, 12:49 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TurboMirage @ Nov 22 2005, 09:45 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
this thread is full of various amounts of ownage.

stick with your subarus, nissans, and hondas kids [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
[/b][/quote]

Oh god no.

Also, regardless of the whole "I have torque" argument, and the fact that this is a Honda forum, I have this to say:

Honda Rocks out on the collective faces of Subaru, Nissan, Toyota and just about anything else.

Don't believe me? Motor Trend does [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

TurboMirage · 11-23-2005, 07:37 AM

no no nothing to do with that. it was more of a general mitsu knowledge ownage.

but this IS a honda forum, so... you know.

reikoshea · 11-24-2005, 07:57 PM

thats why i generally avoid posting here. if it aint a chevy small block (or in some occasions a big block)....i stick to honda.

Slo86GT · 11-25-2005, 03:20 AM

<shakes head in disbelief>

Morons.

<face in hands>

silver · 11-28-2005, 04:56 PM

Holset is beyond what I want right now, and will cost more to me in the end through needing the turbine housing, turbo itself, external, redo my exhaust etc. I had been looking at T04E 50 trim hybrid turbos but eventually decided on an Evo III 16g.

OEM quality and has been recorded to flow upwards of 44 lbs/min propelling full weight 2g AWD's into the 11.5-11.8 range [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]

More updates as I get shit in.
Sucks realizing you just dropped a grand into your car (yes yes you've all spent more, but I'm in college and now broke, again).

silver · 12-04-2005, 02:54 AM

Well, I've bought the turbo for a grand total of 602.85 after shipping, and everything I need for a FMIC setup for 329.83 after shipping.

After selling parts I'm recovering about 675, so net spent: 257.68

I'll be busy this winter, and we'll see what kind of airflow I get with this sucker. Then to the track come..march/april?

11-21-2005, 11:40 AM	#2
TurboMirage Running on two cylinders Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southbridge, MA Age: 24 Posts: 16,181 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer RPW E5 Coupe Rep Power: 219	get an 18g. __________________ Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe. See what is done to the Little EVO5

11-21-2005, 12:49 PM	#5
TurboMirage Running on two cylinders Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southbridge, MA Age: 24 Posts: 16,181 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer RPW E5 Coupe Rep Power: 219	yummy. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif[/img] __________________ Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe. See what is done to the Little EVO5

11-22-2005, 09:45 AM	#14
TurboMirage Running on two cylinders Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southbridge, MA Age: 24 Posts: 16,181 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer RPW E5 Coupe Rep Power: 219	this thread is full of various amounts of ownage. stick with your subarus, nissans, and hondas kids [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe. See what is done to the Little EVO5

11-22-2005, 10:50 AM	#15
formby learning in progress Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 26 Posts: 5,710 iTrader: 4 / 100% Ride: 00' Montero sport, 99' lsv civic Rep Power: 91	why dont you buy a holset..... and this http://www.bullseye-power.com/product_info...&products_id=56 __________________ SOMETIMES IN LIFE WE ALL NEED CHANGE! http://pandora.com/

11-23-2005, 07:37 AM	#17
TurboMirage Running on two cylinders Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southbridge, MA Age: 24 Posts: 16,181 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer RPW E5 Coupe Rep Power: 219	no no nothing to do with that. it was more of a general mitsu knowledge ownage. but this IS a honda forum, so... you know. __________________ Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe. See what is done to the Little EVO5


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11-21-2005, 11:23 AM	#1
silver Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Louis Age: 21 Posts: 691 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1998 Eclipse GSX Rep Power: 19	Well, injectors are on and fuel management is working fine. However, I've ALREADY maxed this turbo, and only at 28 lbs/min of airflow too instead of the ~35 I was hoping for. For the record this is on a 95 GSX with a big T28. Sure I should be satisfied though, with that kind of airflow I'm making a good 250-280 awhp based on other logs I've seen of AWD DSMs... But when are we ever satisfied? It's time for a bigger turbo 300 awhp or bust [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r.gif[/img]

11-21-2005, 11:50 AM	#4
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 28 Posts: 49,974 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 529	why would you want an 18g??? he'd have to get a whole new manifold and everything.... bolt it on y0 http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/gt2871r.html

11-21-2005, 02:27 PM	#6
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 28 Posts: 49,974 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 529	<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phyregod @ Nov 21 2005, 11:48 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(silver @ Nov 21 2005, 12:23 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'> only at 28 lbs/min of airflow too instead of the ~35 I was hoping for. [/b][/quote] I hope this isn't a daily driver.. 35 psi?? RRRRRROoooooooooommmmmmmOOOOOOOAAAA AAA BANG! [/b][/quote] lbs/min is NOT psi. cfm is volume. psi is pressure. apples and oranges and we aren't making juice

11-21-2005, 03:57 PM	#8
silver Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Louis Age: 21 Posts: 691 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1998 Eclipse GSX Rep Power: 19	<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pissedoffsol @ Nov 21 2005, 01:27 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phyregod @ Nov 21 2005, 11:48 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(silver @ Nov 21 2005, 12:23 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'> only at 28 lbs/min of airflow too instead of the ~35 I was hoping for. [/b][/quote] I hope this isn't a daily driver.. 35 psi?? RRRRRROoooooooooommmmmmmOOOOOOOAAAA AAA BANG! [/b][/quote] lbs/min is NOT psi. cfm is volume. psi is pressure. apples and oranges and we aren't making juice [/b][/quote] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] good stuff 18g doesn't need another manifold, but more power can be made from the evo 3 16g's that are so popular now. I have about 1200 to blow maybe, looking towards a 50 trim variant and some cams, that should be good for 50% more airflow easily eh. 370+ awhp or bust now [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r.gif[/img]

11-21-2005, 04:05 PM	#9
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 28 Posts: 49,974 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 529	how does a mistu flanged 18g fit a t25 flanged mani???

11-21-2005, 04:09 PM	#10
silver Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Louis Age: 21 Posts: 691 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1998 Eclipse GSX Rep Power: 19	The key is that they're both mitsu flanged. 18g's will most likely use the TD05H turbine housing, which definitely bolts on to a 2g manifold. You may have heard that 16g/18g/20g/25g's don't bolt on to the 2g's in general, but that's due to the turbos firing upward and the difference in oil feed configurations.

11-21-2005, 05:20 PM	#11
NissanNiNjA2nd Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,515 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 31	<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pissedoffsol @ Nov 21 2005, 05:05 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'> how does a mistu flanged 18g fit a t25 flanged mani??? [/b][/quote] cuz mitsu turbos have the same bolt holes that the T-2 series do. and for some reasons I dont see you maxing out the t25 at 35psi and only making 300whp...

11-22-2005, 02:54 AM	#12
silver Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Louis Age: 21 Posts: 691 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1998 Eclipse GSX Rep Power: 19	<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NissanNiNjA2 nd @ Nov 21 2005, 04:20 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'> cuz mitsu turbos have the same bolt holes that the T-2 series do. and for some reasons I dont see you maxing out the t25 at 35psi and only making 300whp... [/b][/quote] Once again, it's not a t25, I'm not running 35 psi of boost, and I'm not making 300 awhp.

11-22-2005, 09:37 AM	#13
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 28 Posts: 49,974 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 529	ROFL!

11-25-2005, 03:20 AM	#19
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11-28-2005, 04:56 PM	#20
silver Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Louis Age: 21 Posts: 691 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1998 Eclipse GSX Rep Power: 19	Holset is beyond what I want right now, and will cost more to me in the end through needing the turbine housing, turbo itself, external, redo my exhaust etc. I had been looking at T04E 50 trim hybrid turbos but eventually decided on an Evo III 16g. OEM quality and has been recorded to flow upwards of 44 lbs/min propelling full weight 2g AWD's into the 11.5-11.8 range [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] More updates as I get shit in. Sucks realizing you just dropped a grand into your car (yes yes you've all spent more, but I'm in college and now broke, again).

12-04-2005, 02:54 AM	#21
silver Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Louis Age: 21 Posts: 691 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1998 Eclipse GSX Rep Power: 19	Well, I've bought the turbo for a grand total of 602.85 after shipping, and everything I need for a FMIC setup for 329.83 after shipping. After selling parts I'm recovering about 675, so net spent: 257.68 I'll be busy this winter, and we'll see what kind of airflow I get with this sucker. Then to the track come..march/april?

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