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Prowler · 08-16-2005, 10:39 PM

95 LT1 - $6500
'00 LS1 - $14000

That's what is available here and the prices. For $7500 I'll have a rebuilt/new engine and a whole lot more power than buying a 5th gen.

Same thing as why to buy a used '00 Si for $10,000 instead of a new Si for $19,000.

2000Si · 08-16-2005, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by ksrcivic+Aug 16 2005, 10:20 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ksrcivic @ Aug 16 2005, 10:20 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-2000Si@Aug 16 2005, 06:51 PM
Yes, you may be able to get your car into the nines, but I highly doubt you're going to be able to drive that car home exactly how you ran it down the track legally. Furthermore, you're going to spend an assload of cash getting there.

Where as we could search for and more than likely find hundreds of 9 second LT1s and LS1s with less than 5 grand in modifications total.

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A nine second LT1 or LS1 would be just as street legal as a 9 second honda, PERIOD. As for putting 5 grand one of those cars to get it into the 9's very doubtful. 10-11's is easy getting into the 9's consistantly and reliably is another! I think this thread has gotten out of hand and no longer is to the point of what is was meant for. Lshatch916 said a common idea get the car with more horspower than the other, its easier to make it faster or just leave it alone as its fast enough already.

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LShatch did make a pricing comment... and then proceeded to tell me

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give me all the money he spent on car plus mods and ill do 9's and take u out to eat filet migion.

Basically I told Prowler that an LT1 is cheaper, but buying a more expensive LS1 is the better way to go in his eyes.

I told Prowler if he can find an LT1 Z28 for a good price in decent shape then GET IT.

Lshatch916 · 08-16-2005, 10:58 PM

I can believe im arguing about domestic flith in an import forum.

Lets just agree to disagree. IYO u like the LT1 IMO i like the LS1. Its niether of ours money. So Prowler do what ever u feel is nessesary ok. i just one more thing is that pricing for the car right and whatever u do dont buy a mustang!!!!!! oh yeah the LS1 body style looks soooooo much better than the LT1 ok im done

NissanNiNjA2nd · 08-16-2005, 11:09 PM

buy a vette and be done with this fbody crap.....

Lshatch916 · 08-16-2005, 11:11 PM

to hell with a vette buy a NSX an become pimp god of the world or even buy a Supra and "desimate all with overnighted parts from japan"

2000Si · 08-16-2005, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by NissanNiNjA2nd+Aug 16 2005, 11:09 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NissanNiNjA2 nd @ Aug 16 2005, 11:09 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>buy a vette and be done with this fbody crap.....

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to hell with a vette buy a NSX an become pimp god of the world or even buy a Supra and "desimate all with overnighted parts from japan"

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haha and pay way... way more than he's intending on spending in the first place.

Lshatch916 · 08-16-2005, 11:18 PM

i know but he would get all he money back in pussy payments

NissanNiNjA2nd · 08-17-2005, 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by Lshatch916@Aug 16 2005, 11:18 PM
i know but he would get all he money back in pussy payments

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YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT!

pull your head out of your honda-is-god ass

ksrcivic · 08-17-2005, 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by NissanNiNjA2nd+Aug 16 2005, 09:32 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NissanNiNjA2 nd @ Aug 16 2005, 09:32 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Lshatch916@Aug 16 2005, 11:18 PM
i know but he would get all he money back in pussy payments

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YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT!

pull your head out of your honda-is-god ass

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HONDA IS GOD!

totalburnout · 08-17-2005, 12:59 AM

Delete half this thread, or lock it.

Seriously, from the kids who can't construct basic sentences to form logical thoughts, you provide just about the worse arguement possible.

Of course the LS1 is better than the LT1, no one ever said it wasn't. People simply pointed out to you, in your ignorance, that the LT1 can be a very good engine. Its a very strong engine and has more power and displacement than any stock Honda engine. The LT1's sell for so cheap, that its almost idiotic not to buy one at a bargain price if you plan on rebuilding/modding the engine.

ksrcivic · 08-17-2005, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by New2TheCarScene@Aug 16 2005, 09:59 PM
Delete half this thread, or lock it.

Seriously, from the kids who can't construct basic sentences to form logical thoughts, you provide just about the worse arguement possible.

Of course the LS1 is better than the LT1, no one ever said it wasn't. People simply pointed out to you, in your ignorance, that the LT1 can be a very good engine. Its a very strong engine and has more power and displacement than any stock Honda engine. The LT1's sell for so cheap, that its almost idiotic not to buy one at a bargain price if you plan on rebuilding/modding the engine.

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Jesus, calm down people its a thread on the internet! Some people don't know how to let it die, if you couldn't tell by lshatchs' last comment he was being funny. this is why i hate posting on this site most of the time.

Lshatch916 · 08-17-2005, 01:20 AM

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Originally posted by 2000Si+Aug 16 2005, 07:46 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(2000Si @ Aug 16 2005, 07:46 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

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Originally posted by ksrcivic@Aug 16 2005, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by 2000Si@Aug 16 2005, 06:51 PM
Yes, you may be able to get your car into the nines, but I highly doubt you're going to be able to drive that car home exactly how you ran it down the track legally. Furthermore, you're going to spend an assload of cash getting there.

Where as we could search for and more than likely find hundreds of 9 second LT1s and LS1s with less than 5 grand in modifications total.

Quoted post

A nine second LT1 or LS1 would be just as street legal as a 9 second honda, PERIOD. As for putting 5 grand one of those cars to get it into the 9's very doubtful. 10-11's is easy getting into the 9's consistantly and reliably is another! I think this thread has gotten out of hand and no longer is to the point of what is was meant for. Lshatch916 said a common idea get the car with more horspower than the other, its easier to make it faster or just leave it alone as its fast enough already.

Quoted post

LShatch did make a pricing comment... and then proceeded to tell me

Quote:

give me all the money he spent on car plus mods and ill do 9's and take u out to eat filet migion.

Basically I told Prowler that an LT1 is cheaper, but buying a more expensive LS1 is the better way to go in his eyes.

I told Prowler if he can find an LT1 Z28 for a good price in decent shape then GET IT.

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Ok look, for the money that your gonna spend to get in the 13-12 second range, why not buy the LS1 thats already there, but thats just a matter of opinion, but if he's not gonna mod it than buy the LT1 then. Fuck it! Do whatever! Its not that serious. I thought that this had been settled with the whole "agree to disagree" thing?

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Originally posted by NissanNiNjA2nd@Aug 16 2005, 09:32 PM
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@Aug 16 2005, 11:18 PM
i know but he would get all he money back in pussy payments

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YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT!

pull your head out of your honda-is-god ass

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Are u serious???? You come to a honda forum and get mad cause some think higher of an NSX or a Supra than a Corvette

? Would you have felt better if i threw in a Skyline or an S15 or S14? Fuck people calm down! People in this get all hyped up if u have a different opinion than theirs. Shit...its a fucking joke asshole calm down.

Lshatch916 · 08-17-2005, 01:21 AM

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Originally posted by ksrcivic+Aug 16 2005, 10:09 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ksrcivic @ Aug 16 2005, 10:09 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-New2TheCarScene@Aug 16 2005, 09:59 PM
Delete half this thread, or lock it.*

Seriously, from the kids who can't construct basic sentences to form logical thoughts, you provide just about the worse arguement possible.

Of course the LS1 is better than the LT1, no one ever said it wasn't.* People simply pointed out to you, in your ignorance, that the LT1 can be a very good engine.* Its a very strong engine and has more power and displacement than any stock Honda engine.* The LT1's sell for so cheap, that its almost idiotic not to buy one at a bargain price if you plan on rebuilding/modding the engine.

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Jesus, calm down people its a thread on the internet! Some people don't know how to let it die, if you couldn't tell by lshatchs' last comment he was being funny. this is why i hate posting on this site most of the time.

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driverunknown · 08-17-2005, 03:56 AM

DOn't get a 93, as they were the first year for that body style so they have a good amount of problems. My buddy just threw around 1500 bucks to get all the electricAL PROBLEMS "FIXED" and it still has a hard time starting...

he has had
3 fuel pumps
2 new ecus because a shorted wire kept frying them
leaky transmission pan
still has
small oil leak
hard time starting. It's something with the fuel pressure.
The car only has 77k miles on it.
And it's a pig on gas.

He lifted the car to get under it with a jack and the door looks misaligned. Yes he did lifted at the right lift point.

2000Si · 08-17-2005, 06:55 AM

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Originally posted by Lshatch916+Aug 17 2005, 01:20 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lshatch916 @ Aug 17 2005, 01:20 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

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Originally posted by 2000Si@Aug 16 2005, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ksrcivic@Aug 16 2005, 10:20 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-2000Si

Quote:

Quote:

@Aug 16 2005, 06:51 PM
Yes, you may be able to get your car into the nines, but I highly doubt you're going to be able to drive that car home exactly how you ran it down the track legally. Furthermore, you're going to spend an assload of cash getting there.

Where as we could search for and more than likely find hundreds of 9 second LT1s and LS1s with less than 5 grand in modifications total.

Quoted post

A nine second LT1 or LS1 would be just as street legal as a 9 second honda, PERIOD. As for putting 5 grand one of those cars to get it into the 9's very doubtful. 10-11's is easy getting into the 9's consistantly and reliably is another! I think this thread has gotten out of hand and no longer is to the point of what is was meant for. Lshatch916 said a common idea get the car with more horspower than the other, its easier to make it faster or just leave it alone as its fast enough already.

Quoted post

LShatch did make a pricing comment... and then proceeded to tell me

Quote:

give me all the money he spent on car plus mods and ill do 9's and take u out to eat filet migion.

Basically I told Prowler that an LT1 is cheaper, but buying a more expensive LS1 is the better way to go in his eyes.

I told Prowler if he can find an LT1 Z28 for a good price in decent shape then GET IT.

Quoted post

Ok look, for the money that your gonna spend to get in the 13-12 second range, why not buy the LS1 thats already there, but thats just a matter of opinion, but if he's not gonna mod it than buy the LT1 then. Fuck it! Do whatever! Its not that serious. I thought that this had been settled with the whole "agree to disagree" thing?

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I ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT!!!!!! :P

The price difference from buying a 93-97 LT1 to buying a 98-02 LS1 is going to me MORE than what he's going to spend on the LT1 to put it into the 12s.

Why is this hard to figure out?

oh and ksrCivic;

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Jesus, calm down people its a thread on the internet! Some people don't know how to let it die, if you couldn't tell by lshatchs' last comment he was being funny. this is why i hate posting on this site most of the time.

I apologize for not being able to discern sarcasm from serious tone through TEXT on the internet while talking to someone who's been arguing with me for an entire page now.

Prowler · 08-17-2005, 07:58 AM

Like I said long ago, I'm not buying this car at the moment. End of discussion really...

08-17-2005, 12:59 AM	#35
totalburnout Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern NJ Age: 24 Posts: 6,282 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2006 Audi A4 Rep Power: 138	Delete half this thread, or lock it. Seriously, from the kids who can't construct basic sentences to form logical thoughts, you provide just about the worse arguement possible. Of course the LS1 is better than the LT1, no one ever said it wasn't. People simply pointed out to you, in your ignorance, that the LT1 can be a very good engine. Its a very strong engine and has more power and displacement than any stock Honda engine. The LT1's sell for so cheap, that its almost idiotic not to buy one at a bargain price if you plan on rebuilding/modding the engine. __________________ "Good talk... I'll see you out there."

08-17-2005, 03:56 AM	#39
driverunknown Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 26 Posts: 1,482 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Boosted B16 in ej1 Rep Power: 28	DOn't get a 93, as they were the first year for that body style so they have a good amount of problems. My buddy just threw around 1500 bucks to get all the electricAL PROBLEMS "FIXED" and it still has a hard time starting... he has had 3 fuel pumps 2 new ecus because a shorted wire kept frying them leaky transmission pan still has small oil leak hard time starting. It's something with the fuel pressure. The car only has 77k miles on it. And it's a pig on gas. He lifted the car to get under it with a jack and the door looks misaligned. Yes he did lifted at the right lift point. __________________ The swap is completed. Dented oil pans will kill vtec. Now boosted! Vouches: Wanderinman

08-16-2005, 10:39 PM	#26
Prowler Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: B MT Posts: 3,488 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 50	95 LT1 - $6500 '00 LS1 - $14000 That's what is available here and the prices. For $7500 I'll have a rebuilt/new engine and a whole lot more power than buying a 5th gen. Same thing as why to buy a used '00 Si for $10,000 instead of a new Si for $19,000.

08-16-2005, 10:58 PM	#28
Lshatch916 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sacramento,CA Posts: 233 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 14	I can believe im arguing about domestic flith in an import forum. Lets just agree to disagree. IYO u like the LT1 IMO i like the LS1. Its niether of ours money. So Prowler do what ever u feel is nessesary ok. i just one more thing is that pricing for the car right and whatever u do dont buy a mustang!!!!!! oh yeah the LS1 body style looks soooooo much better than the LT1 ok im done

08-16-2005, 11:09 PM	#29
NissanNiNjA2nd Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,607 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 40	buy a vette and be done with this fbody crap.....

08-16-2005, 11:11 PM	#30
Lshatch916 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sacramento,CA Posts: 233 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 14	to hell with a vette buy a NSX an become pimp god of the world or even buy a Supra and "desimate all with overnighted parts from japan"

08-16-2005, 11:18 PM	#32
Lshatch916 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sacramento,CA Posts: 233 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 14	i know but he would get all he money back in pussy payments

08-17-2005, 07:58 AM	#41
Prowler Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: B MT Posts: 3,488 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 50	Like I said long ago, I'm not buying this car at the moment. End of discussion really...

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