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View Poll Results: What 12" subs would sound best in a 90 integra?
2 JL w3's 8 88.89%
2 Polk Momo's 0 0%
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Old 02-25-2003, 08:06 PM   #1
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I need your alls help on wat subs to get. Im not shure about the SoloBarics because i dont wanna have to buy a big expensive amp.Thanx
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Get the solobaric L5's, you get the benefit of the increased cone area, but also more efficiency than the L7's, so you dont need as much power to get the full potential from the woofers. And they're cheaper.
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I've had 2 l7 12's in my old max with a ZR1100 and I have heard 2 W3 12's with a JL 1000/1 and i would pick the JL's over the Kickers. JL has more clarity and a better sounding sub, IMO.
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i went with a 8in sub from jl audio it was a w somthing anyway i have had it for 5 years and it humps still.
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in my opinion if you want loud clean bass go with a JL AUDIO W7, you will not be dissapointed. I have a 10W7 in a 90 civic hb, it is definatly the loudest 10 I have ever heard. I used to have 2 10W3's in a ported box, the subs each had their own chamber and it is nothing compared to my W7, Iam running a JL 500/1 to it and it could handle a 1000/1. But that is my opinion an what you should get.
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you don't need 2 12's man.

1 10 is enought to make youre music sounds GOOD, not loud.
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in my opinion if you want loud clean bass go with a JL AUDIO W7, you will not be dissapointed. I have a 10W7 in a 90 civic hb, it is definatly the loudest 10 I have ever heard. I used to have 2 10W3's in a ported box, the subs each had their own chamber and it is nothing compared to my W7, Iam running a JL 500/1 to it and it could handle a 1000/1. But that is my opinion an what you should get.
How much did you spend and where?
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JL's fucking blow. They used to be good but they have drastically gone downhill. Also brian is definantly right, I used to have two twelves then 3 tens and its way to much. Your car starts rattling and shit after a while. one ten is the way to go, your music sounds good and you still have a functional trunk.
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you don't need 2 12's man.

1 10 is enought to make youre music sounds GOOD, not loud.
NO doubt,there isn't enough area in you car to need that kind of sound.It will be counterproductive and you will lose out on certain frequencies.
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i my buddy has a JL W3 in his tacoma, and it does not sound that great. I have an Infinity kappa perfect 10.1, and out of all the subs i heard it sounded the best to me... plus the infinity kappa is well built, it is the longest lasting sub i have had, real thick rubber on it, and nice aluminum cone. but in the end it is all personal preference.
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if you buy 2 solo barics your going to need a big amp, and your going to blow the fucking trunk off your car
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If you want a great speaker, go with a 12" Audiobahn Flame. They sound super good and you can get them for a great price. Don't trust your local Car Toys or big store like that, they will just spend your money for you. I know this guy that owns a stereo shop and he'll tell it how it is. He has a 28 watt system, that costs about $50 and it sounds better than a $600 setup from car toys. Also, not sure how many of you know this, but go ask some car toys guy how much a car stereo amp puts out. They will tell you 4x50 = 200 watts, a car stereo amp will only put out 12.5 watts, there is an exception for some pioneer, they will put out 22 watts. Also, unlike home stereo regulations regarding how many watts it puts out, there is no law about the amount they claim it puts out versus how much it really puts out. A company can claim there 2 channel amp puts out 1000 watts, but it may actually only put out 200 watts. Its always good to have a amp bench tested before you buy it to really see how many watts its putting out.
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Audiobahns are nice and you can run them in a smaller sealed inclosure to save space and weight.
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well i would go w/ the solobarics, b/c i had a pair and they PUONDED. However if you want something that will blow all of those away, get a pair of POWER HX2s. Yes fosgates are power hogs, but they are well worth it in my opinion.
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Having just one speaker looks weird. I've never seen a solo setup I actually liked. Two JL W7's. And Polk Momo is just a name. They sound like feces being run through a bull horn.
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Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Mar 10 2003, 11:49 PM
1 10 is enought to make youre music sounds GOOD, not loud.


That's exactly what I have in my trunk too- just one JL 10w3 in a custom box.
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even one 10 inch kicker sounds pretty good
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Solobarics 0wns j00! My buddy with his one kicker L7 15 with a volkenhag 800 watt amp is so much louder then my buddy with 3 jl w6's and a bd1500. For a lighter wattage sub a kappa perfect is very nice and is so crisp for a sub it is hard to believe, my friend just got 1 12 with a 500 kenwood amp(sounds damn good and clear). For the most bang for the buck I think is the audibahn high excursion series. None of these subs I listed were sloppy at all.
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If you want a great speaker, go with a 12" Audiobahn Flame. They sound super good and you can get them for a great price. Don't trust your local Car Toys or big store like that, they will just spend your money for you. I know this guy that owns a stereo shop and he'll tell it how it is. He has a 28 watt system, that costs about $50 and it sounds better than a $600 setup from car toys. Also, not sure how many of you know this, but go ask some car toys guy how much a car stereo amp puts out. They will tell you 4x50 = 200 watts, a car stereo amp will only put out 12.5 watts, there is an exception for some pioneer, they will put out 22 watts. Also, unlike home stereo regulations regarding how many watts it puts out, there is no law about the amount they claim it puts out versus how much it really puts out. A company can claim there 2 channel amp puts out 1000 watts, but it may actually only put out 200 watts. Its always good to have a amp bench tested before you buy it to really see how many watts its putting out.
Yeah I don't believe all that man. My friends dad is vice president of Sun Fire in sales and marketing. They make some of the most expensive and high tech subwoofers, receivers, etc. out there. One of their Signature series Subwoofers on the amp bench it puts out 2700 watts. It is only a 11 inch cube with 2-8 inch drivers on both sides with a built in amp. Only problem is it costs about 1200 bucks.
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I would do a single 12 or 10 set up ported and tuned somewhat low, 33-35 hz, build a custom slot vented box and you will be happy. I have a single 12 set up, and I get 1st at nearly every show I go to here in mn, and in my class almost everyone runs 2 12's. Its all in the box, woofer choice is definately the 2nd most important part of your system.
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Most companies that put out the sub also put out plans for the sub box and what dimensions you should use for the best sound out of the sub.
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My friends dad is vice president of Sun Fire in sales and marketing.
I don't think there's an automotive application to the Sunfire sub. It is very impressive though!

Do you think your buddy's dad could hook me up with Bob Carver for some amps at home?
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low frequency gives deeper bass but youll need an crossfeed to keep higher frequencies out. If you want an even deeper thump get a bandpass style box. To get the best overall sound you have to expand your frequency range by getting very high freq tweeters, very low freq. sub, and a midrange that will overlap the tweeter's lowest frequency and the sub's highest frequency.
no point in getting the loudest speakers unless you are going to an SPL comp. Youll just end up buying even more speakers for a louder sound because you cant hear well.
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i got a new kicker l5 in a kicker box that a friend just bought for 550
im selling for 300
also a zapco ag 750 that he bought for 650
im selling for 450
these are about a week old now

anyways i complete in db drag im one of the first guys to hit 150 dbs with just 1 12" sub and it sound good too!!!!
all the speaker u listed are good. what will make the different is the box
as for the w7s they dont handle 4000 watts they have coil problems now and are blowing up
the kicker squares use to have those same problems
but the have been corrected (it was because of cheap coil glue)
anyhow the l5 squares 12s are rated at 450 rms(guess what they can handle over 1000!!!
the new sl7 12s are rated at 750 rms i got two zapco 9.0s going to each speaker (thats 4000 rms )its been a year still haven blew one yet i think im going to sell my back ups (go to dbdragracing.com)
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If you want a great speaker, go with a 12" Audiobahn Flame. They sound super good and you can get them for a great price. Don't trust your local Car Toys or big store like that, they will just spend your money for you. I know this guy that owns a stereo shop and he'll tell it how it is. He has a 28 watt system, that costs about $50 and it sounds better than a $600 setup from car toys. Also, not sure how many of you know this, but go ask some car toys guy how much a car stereo amp puts out. They will tell you 4x50 = 200 watts, a car stereo amp will only put out 12.5 watts, there is an exception for some pioneer, they will put out 22 watts. Also, unlike home stereo regulations regarding how many watts it puts out, there is no law about the amount they claim it puts out versus how much it really puts out. A company can claim there 2 channel amp puts out 1000 watts, but it may actually only put out 200 watts. Its always good to have a amp bench tested before you buy it to really see how many watts its putting out.
Eh.. no, i'm not paying the price for an average speaker that weighs 100 lbs b/c of the shitty chrome and flame design.
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