thinking about ditching honda again.....

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you should def look into the mazda speed cars.
the speed3 is a hatchback, but has a lot more of a sportier look than the speed6
but the speed6 looks more grown up, also the awd isnt bad either.
used ones are pretty decent to come upon.

that would be the way i go. they have plenty of room, manual. can get luxury with the grand touring packages.
they also have nav options.
 
i wouldnt mind having a Mazdaspeed3... pretty quick little cars
 
hell yeah they are. i love driving them when i get the chance.
we have a white one, loaded with nav, black leather. heated seats.
love it. wish i could afford it.
and simple bolt on upgrades make them even more fun, plus theres room for the whole family.
 
LGT? Used 4.2 A6? Hell, if you dont mind a warranty, tires and brakes you could ball outrageous with a CPO 7-series or A8.
 
Wait till the '10 6 speed awd TL comes out at the end of the year. They have a number of improvements which makes it much better than just throwing a manual trans in an auto car. Take it from me, the awd TL is a totally different feeling car than my dad's 08'. It gives a sense of hugging around you when you drive it, and is much more respoinsive, than say the old gen which feels like a luxo accord.
 
It may be a little out of the year range but its the car im looking into and i really like them.

What about an 05 Lexus IS300? Its a quick little four door thats loaded with everything you want and you can find them loaded with a manual tranny... Just a thought :p
 
I love the IS300, but if you start leaning that direction, I'd go for an Impreza.
 
Wait till the '10 6 speed awd TL comes out at the end of the year. They have a number of improvements which makes it much better than just throwing a manual trans in an auto car. Take it from me, the awd TL is a totally different feeling car than my dad's 08'. It gives a sense of hugging around you when you drive it, and is much more respoinsive, than say the old gen which feels like a luxo accord.

are they doing to do something about that god awful tumor on the nose any time soon???
 
the ass end kills it for me. ugggggggggggggggly
 
I made a point to go see the new TL in person today. on my god, its even more ugly in person, there was row after row of TLs at the local dealership. all of them are butt ass ugly. With that being said Acura will never be on my list of cars to buy until they do a full redesign.

I'm looking at cars up towards the 40K range, a Mazda is no where near my list of cars I'd even think of for a replacement, I'd take a 70K mile TL over a new mazda anything, anyday. Again, not looking for a basic car, i want something loaded and refined, even the Subi STI, while a great car IMO isn't refined. Just open the door and close it, then check out a C class and open/close the door, it has a whole different sound, ones solid. the other. meh, not so solid, even my 350Z has a very cheap feel all over.

Looked at the S5 and A5 today, nice cars but I dont trust audi at all, they hold resale value worse then most any other car. They had a really good looking TT with the GT3 orange, really good looking, but too small.

I spent about 2 hours at the benz dealership, its hard to believe just how different of an experience going to a BMW/Benz dealership VS acura or god forbids, a normal honda/mitsu/mazda dealership.

I went to at least 6 different honda dealerships looking for Linhs SI, everyone was a pain in the ass, if they couldn't make the price I wanted to pay work, they'd fall back to 4 other cars until we'd just walk away.

Lower end car dealerships try to sale you a car, if its missing an option, they give you a reason to not need it or if you dont want it they try to talk you into wanting it.

Bens/BMW they know the cars are good and its not a matter of talking someone into buying one, but rather making sure they get the car they want. Even if it means NOT buying a car from them.

I checked out the C class 350 with the sport package, nav, tech, and AMG wheels/rotors. Power wise the car feels great, handles great, however the auto tranny......... meh, at least unlike the Lexus it doesn''t auto shift when in manual mode. Over all I really liked the car, it looks bad ass in white with the black roof.

Down sides I didn't know about, it doesn't have the same toys as some other cars. No keyless auto luck/unlock and button start, you still need to insert the plastic key and turn it. Also no back up cam and the parking sensors are an option.one thing that really bugged me was the shifter, to upshift you push it right, to down shift you push it left.... no forward/back. Total cost new looks to be around 46k with the options I want.

Lexus on the other hand with the tech/nav package gives you all the good stuff.

Im going to give the g37 coupe/sedan a look, see how that goes. While I do have a 350Z the G37 coupe in stock from is nothing like my Z however either way I'd still like to stick with a 4 door just in case any kids show up.

while speaking highly of the local bmw/bens dealerships, I do have to say Lexus of Annapolis can kiss my ass, I've had to many stupid issues with them to ever bother buying a car from them, whenever you hear "are you seroius about buying a car?" when you ask to see something.... Fuck you.

Went in there just before buying my 350, not a single person even looked at me, went back in last year to check out the IS350. Got treated like a 12 year old.

I do like the C350, it fits my style, I just wish it had a bit more "toys" and a manual.

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As far as selling the TL, money talks.
 
You seem like Mercedes...Well what about a 2006 E55 AMG 469hp 516lb/tq with 35k miles fully loaded...There is a pre-owned one for 39,900 on the Mercedes Certified -Preowned search located in PA
 
My vote is to keep the TL. Seems like you love the car right? 60k miles isn't alot, esp. for a Honda. Think about the $$$ you will save driving that thing to 100k rather than blowing 40k on another car that will be worth 25k in 2 years.
 
2007 530I... 6speed... so nice.
After I finish paying off my RSX this year, I will probably get an '04 or '05 for my wife and new kid.
Believe me its hard to find a good luxury/sporty car without the AT tranny, its just an oxymoron really, so find something you like and buy it. Then post pics.
The E92 don't look bad either and they should drop in price even more soon (M3).
Its my next choice, if I can find it for a good price.
 
Believe me its hard to find a good luxury/sporty car without the AT tranny, its just an oxymoron really, so find something you like and buy it.
how is it an oxymoron?

luxury and sports car don't go together.

how many people do you know who drive a mercedes or lexus want to drive a manual? not many. those people like to relax and enjoy the ride. thats why they all have bmw roadsters or miatas as a second car.
 
did you read my sentence correctly? you just said what I said.
 
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