For all you skinny guys out there.

you CAN eat healthy on the road. Shit, even mcdonalds sells salads.

2000Si said:

thanks. well see how it goes. gotta get used to it. tuesday nights will be hard when I'm sitting in the bar.

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If your trying to quit stay away from the bar for a little bit if its going to make you fail. It sucks, but the longer you go the easier it is. You also have to want it. I had good luck with the patch, but didn't use as directed. I took it off 2 hours before bed, and didn't use it the whole time. You will feel like shit, but it will get better. It also helps if you have someone to give you a tough time if you go back or are thinking about it.

BAN yourself from smoking in cars, on job sites, in your house, etc etc, and pretty soon you'll just give up.

the only real way to quit IMO is to simply quit cold turkey because you want to. Nothing else worked for me.

Want to quit smoking? STOP SMOKING THEM. it's really that simple. You don't die if you don't have one. You just get antsy. fight yourself. YOU own YOURSELF. not phillip morris.

B said:

BAN yourself from smoking in cars, on job sites, in your house, etc etc, and pretty soon you'll just give up.

the only real way to quit IMO is to simply quit cold turkey because you want to. Nothing else worked for me.

Want to quit smoking? STOP SMOKING THEM. it's really that simple. You don't die if you don't have one. You just get antsy. fight yourself. YOU own YOURSELF. not phillip morris.

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What if you're like tyler durden?

Cashizslick said:

Actually most skinny people struggle to gain mass. They have to do things like squats, bench, deadlifts, all heavy weight, pullups/dips weighted, etc. It takes a ton of hard work, just different hard work than that required of those who just want to tone up and lose weight.

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Missed my point. This guy has great genetics. He has great symmetry, very very thin skin. And little body fat. He didn't have to cut. He didn't have to give up carbs. He didn't have to run. He did the same thing heavy guys do for half of the year without having to do the other half years work of the said above.

The work to put on musclemass and not having to diet, watch what specific foods you eat and just eat is night and day. Being able to sit down and eat two plates of spaghetti to bulk would be amazing if I could do that and not get fat. Building muscle is building muscle. It always takes hardwork for heavy and skinny guys.

I hope anyone that lifts does those basics you said.

jeffie7 said:

I've busted my ass to get size.... and I'm still friggin small. That guy did one hell of a job in a short time. I also was eating 3500+ calorie days. I ate ate ate ate ate ate ate........ right now I'm trying to drop my belly that I've gained from eating nonstop.

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You also burn those 3500 calories working. I call it skinny fat. I am skinny fat. I get lovehandles and belly and face fat. My arms, legs, etc don't gain fat at all. I don't carry it broadly across my body just in those areas from eating more calories than my body consumes.


If you have a belly you don't have the paper thin genetics this guy has. And if you're small its because your muscles are small.



I lived with a korean kid all college. He ate whatever he wanted and was pretty lean no matter what. WHen he stopped working out he would lose weight. His body didn't like keeping it on. When he was lifting he'd eat whatever he wanted. Everything. MCD's. etc. He stayed lean and his muscles got larger. It was easy. Smoke pot, eat fast food, lift weights. He had the worst workouts on the planet that lasted forever. But always had a calorie surplus and gained muscle. Not fat. GENETICS.






If you wanna gain size. You gotta have a surplus. But you also have to up your intensity and your amount you're working out. You need to be damn sore almost every lift. You need to start with large lifts and work down. Bench to flys(Chest days). Squats to leg ext. BIG BIG LIFTS to get big.


No one that can bench 350 has skinny arms. That's a fact. And if you're dead lifting 500 you don't have a narrow back.

B said:

BAN yourself from smoking in cars, on job sites, in your house, etc etc, and pretty soon you'll just give up.

the only real way to quit IMO is to simply quit cold turkey because you want to. Nothing else worked for me.

Want to quit smoking? STOP SMOKING THEM. it's really that simple. You don't die if you don't have one. You just get antsy. fight yourself. YOU own YOURSELF. not phillip morris.

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I really wish I felt comfortable talking about myself more on here, itd make it easier to explain why it will be alot harder for me to quit than it was for you. its not just one factor, its about 10, problem is it all comes down to the main two issues I have.

I should post up pics of myself on one of those sites lol...

Short story... i am taller than average (6'3'') and in 2002, I graduated High School @ 210lbs of mostly fat. Girlfriends, excessive drinking, break-ups and new office job... caused me to tip the scales @ 302lbs with 31% body fat. There was a life changing thing for me to actually see it in a picture. New Years 2004, I saw a picture with my stomach busting out of my sweater and just looked gross. I read, read, read, read and read into working out and dieting. I developed a plan and starting seeing results but I wasnt consistent with it.

2008, I meet my most current ex-girlfriend (split up 3 weeks ago), I weighed 220 and I was toned. I stopped going to the gym because we got serious, and I fluctuated between 220 and 210. About six months ago, I decided to run in the Baltimore Marathon in October 2011, so I hit the gym hard. Today, I am 182lbs with 7% body fat and I am in the best shape of my life.

Losing weight is all in your mind, and you will get what you take out of it. You have to not just change habits but you have to change your lifestyle. You have to understand good/bad/pointless habits or work-outs and learn through experience. Yes, I have smoked for 3 years but I am still able to run my ass off (outside, treadmill, elliptical or bike). You just have to limit your vices and learn to deal with them.

I go to the gym for 2-2.5 hours a day, 6 days a week but I know my routines. I know that sounds like a lot... but I am fully aware of what muscles need rest and I dont overwork them. I do run 60+ minutes a day though, but my marathon training is about endurance and I need to keep up the cardio. I have never felt so energized and motivated in my life.... so this is truly a lifestyle changer.

I think the dude in the pictures, definitely has genetics on his side though... mine suck (pops is 270lbs and mom is short 165lbs). Overall though, I applaud that guy for overcoming his eating disorder and turning his entire life around. Props to him and everyone else who is trying to get in shape. I would be more than happy to give some advice but I am no pro

Success story right here.

jeffie7 said:

Look at the lines on his arms where the muscle is clearly cut between his shoulders and biceps and his chest. I think he did an awesome job. Over all he has a great body.

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I don't see why anybody wouldn't want to look like the "after" photos of this dude. Good symmetry, good size (but not too massive), and very little body fat. He looks good to me...

...no homo...

I'm down to 245lbs

2000Si said:

I really wish I felt comfortable talking about myself more on here, itd make it easier to explain why it will be alot harder for me to quit than it was for you. its not just one factor, its about 10, problem is it all comes down to the main two issues I have.

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Stop making excuses, if you want to quit then quit. Stress fucking sucks and will always be in your life, something will always come up. There is no perfect time to quit. You have to want to do it. I don't care what method you use to quit if you don't want to quit you won't.
B said cold turkey is the only way, it didn't work for me. Everyone is different. I was feeling like shit, couldn't function, and had some severe headaches. I needed to ween down on the patch, as I could not function It wasn't the first time I used the patch, it was probably the 3rd time. This time I just wanted it more. I know several people who quit this way.
Quitting does suck, you just have to keep strong to it. Also thinking 1 smoke won't hurt, well it will. One leads to more. Also, if your friends smoke tell them that you are quitting and not to let you bum any smokes. If they don't understand they probably aren't that good of friends.
Good luck, its been 6 months for me, smoked for over 10.

1 drag starts the ENTIRE quit process ALL OVER again. That one puff voids any suffering you've put up with before it.

I didn't so much get headaches from quitting cold turkey, but i was very dizzy for a while. And i didn't shit for like a week. lol body was all out of wack, but it eventually got easier and easier every day, and then i got my wisdom teeth out (of which you can't smoke after anyway) so it FORCED me to not even be able to fall back to it once i reached the 'ok, see, i told ya i could do it' mental BS your body tells you as you reach for a 'reward' smoke which of course turns into starting smoking full time all over again.

It's 100% in your head. If you truely want to be a non-smoker, you can.
If you fail, it's because you and only you yourself chose not to be and you're a pussy but seriously, the only one you are fighting is yourself.


NEVER have a nother one.
Not at a bar with a beer
not with a friend
not after a stressful day

NEVER again.

you're basically an alcoholic of cigareettes and 1 puff will re-lapse you again.

at $8 a pack, fuck smoking. It was enjoyable at $1.80, a waste of money at $3, and when they went to $5 it was time to think about wtf was wrong with you.

a pack a day is a brand new civic in your driveway. $280 a month.
think about it.

B said:

a pack a day is a brand new civic in your driveway. $280 a month.
think about it.

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This is what the smoking adds need to tell people.

B said:

1 a pack a day is a brand new civic in your driveway. $280 a month.

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or in this case, a gym membership and some protein bars

or....a 1500sq ft. house in Indiana. ^_^

Jeef said:

Stop making excuses, if you want to quit then quit. Stress fucking sucks and will always be in your life, something will always come up. There is no perfect time to quit. You have to want to do it. I don't care what method you use to quit if you don't want to quit you won't.
B said cold turkey is the only way, it didn't work for me. Everyone is different. I was feeling like shit, couldn't function, and had some severe headaches. I needed to ween down on the patch, as I could not function It wasn't the first time I used the patch, it was probably the 3rd time. This time I just wanted it more. I know several people who quit this way.
Quitting does suck, you just have to keep strong to it. Also thinking 1 smoke won't hurt, well it will. One leads to more. Also, if your friends smoke tell them that you are quitting and not to let you bum any smokes. If they don't understand they probably aren't that good of friends.
Good luck, its been 6 months for me, smoked for over 10.

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I'm not making any excuses. hell I haven't even started on quitting yet. and its around the $140 mark per month for me as far as cost.

lol and my place is 2100 sq ft.

B said:

that shit will put a whole in your lip. fuck chew/snus. even as an ex-smoker, that shit is nasty.

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In the long term, yea probably. Still better than emphysema. But with the rate I do it, I seriously doubt seeing any real negative effects. A pack of 6 lasts me a week or two. Also saves me tons of cash compared to cigarettes.

I can't believe I forgot my nicotine gum today. sombish.

Get some regular gum with a little sugar in it and eat or drink something sugary. Nicotine messes with your blood sugar.