Passenger plane shot down over Ukraine

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Ukraine is denying liability and claiming pro-russian militants did it. Too early to say who did what, but there have been allegations of Russia arming those in eastern Ukraine for awhile. Military usually don't mistake passenger planes, but an amateur with weaponry beyond his training, on the other hand...

I think the really interesting thing here is that the international community has been resolute in not putting boots on the ground in the Ukraine. But that same community routinely sends in people for this type of incident. So the interplay of border conflict with emergency response and crash recovery will be fascinating, regardless.
 
Probably the worst title ever. Plane shot down over Ukraine would read a bit better.....
 
Bad year for Malaysia.


Gzus though. This could spiral out of hand real quick. Putin's comments are so typical putin. Blame it on Ukraine.
 
Grandfather with grand kids 8 10 and 12...

That's a big blow to that family.
 
I first saw this report and thought it was about the other plane that's still missing...
 
Why am I so skeptical of everything coming out?
 
Why am I so skeptical of everything coming out?

Because our government is shady as fuck. But try and remember we don't have that market cornered. You can either believe Russians provided arms to separatists who made a mistake, or you can believe that the US or Ukraine infiltrated enemy controlled territory and fired a russian missle... understanding that the US is still not going to put boots on the ground and that the US's interests in the Ukraine are really minimal.

Personally when I hear hoof falls I don't turn around and expect to see a Zebra.
 
facebook right wing nut sites keep posting about all these reporters who have quit their jobs over this, citing 'tired of lying' to the public.
 
facebook right wing nut sites keep posting about all these reporters who have quit their jobs over this, citing 'tired of lying' to the public.
lol, wat!?

On my FB I have both extremes. Extreme Left and Extreme Right. I hate them both equally.
 
I saw a Chevy Vega for sale on craiglist and thought of him. Forgot he was even a member at one point but saw that car and instantly reminded.
 
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