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Yeah I would still buy a house with oil heat because I will just install another Pellet Stove in it ;)
 
So, would you guys buy another house with oil heat?

Currently buying a house with oil. When the boiler eventually goes, I will convert it to gas. There is a main in the road but it will have to be dug up and run. If the hook up was right by the house, that would have been ideal.

And yes, NG is absolutely the way to go. There is a lot of propoganda that NG will go up significantly in price because around the rest of the world it is much more expensive and in line with oil. We have a surplus in the US and no good way to export it. When I sit through the fuel marketers association meetings, they tout, just wait until the pipelines go through! The price of NG will go up! Except those pipelines haven't been approved and will take years to be built once they are approved. Also, there is no good way to transport the NG unless its liquefied. This is the same thing that has been said for the last decade by the same people... NG is here to stay.
 
Pulled this trigger this week.
322.5 gallons to top off my tanks @ 3.199/gal.
Price might drop a bit more heading into October but it won't be long before demand picks up and who knows what's going to happen over in the middle east to spike prices.
 
yeah, i filled last week too. 200 gals, 3.39. i pay a little more a gallon because I get free annual cleaning service/nozzle work and the basic 'service' plan (basically, they show up to fix it... lol). If i burned more oil, i probably wouldn't do it that way, but it works out in my favor this way i think... figure the cleaning is 200 and the service is 99 a year, so 300 bucks a year vs .20 cent price difference = about $100 based on my usage. they are also good about calling before coming out, even though i am on auto delivery so i don't get hit with an unexpected bill randomly for 20 gallons (waste of everyone's time).

I need to get an electric water heater. 80% of this cost is all hot water.
 
Just filled today 234 gal at 3.19.

Still deciding what to do about the servicing of the unit. I just bought the house and it looks like she didn't have it serviced in a while.

Option 1 the neighbors brother works for an oil company and will do the cleaning for a hundred bucks. Sounds good but if something happens in the middle of the winter I will have to wait for him to be free or try to get another company to service it.

Option 2 The guy who filled the tank offers 2 service agreements. One for 250 that is the basic cleaning and replace nozzle, strainers, and filter. All emergency labor is covered for a year, I am responsible for parts.
The other one is 325 and covers like 30 parts against breakage. Not the fill boiler though.
Only thing is I have to get on automatic delivery to have the service agreement.

I used 1/4 tank from june 30th to today. Approx 250 bucks to heat hot water and have been taking colder showers. I got an energy efficent bosch dishwasher and a newer washing machine. I am thinking about an instant heat or going electric.
 
yep, oil DHW sucks.

instant = need for gas. if you don't have NG piped, it makes it pretty expensive to change.
 
Smart to pull the trigger. The prediction is pain right now. Supply is actually lower than in previous years and they're predicting a rough winter. With the Russia stuff going on, they won't be here to bail us out like they did last year when things got very cold.

Just sat through an oil refinery presentation on this. The prediction is pain!
 
What sucks is it was cheap today but its not going to last long.

Looking into converting to a hybrid waterheater. With rebates I can get one for cheap, I just need to see if we qualify for the rebate.
 
cl and p is running upto a $400 rebate right now

and when you say for summer use, how are you going to heat your water for the rest of the year.
 
This is unusual to me. Why are there so many options on the east coast? Here in Seattle, it's almost all electric. Are the houses over there just really old?
 
cl and p is running upto a $400 rebate right now

and when you say for summer use, how are you going to heat your water for the rest of the year.
with my boiler... it needs to run for a level of the house and maintain the basement warmth for pipe freeze issues anyway, so using it for water is th ebest way to do that.

in the summer, it acts as a heat pump/dehumidifier making it's waste product useful energy. heat pump is useless in the winter anyway, there's no heat to pump....
 
This is unusual to me. Why are there so many options on the east coast? Here in Seattle, it's almost all electric. Are the houses over there just really old?
in general, houses built <1980 oil crisis are oil 1980-1990 = electric, then electric spiked and oil crashed and oil became popular again in the 90s. 2000's, NG became more popular along with remote installs of propane units.
basically, they built houses with what was cheapest at the time per BTU.
 
in general, houses built <1980 oil crisis are oil 1980-1990 = electric, then electric spiked and oil crashed and oil became popular again in the 90s. 2000's, NG became more popular along with remote installs of propane units.
basically, they built houses with what was cheapest at the time per BTU.

Wow, that's really interesting. We have a 10 year trend here of gas fireplaces in condos and apartments, but other than that, I would guess most homes are 90% electric, probably dating back to 1990.
 
Electric is the cheapest option for the builder, but usually more expensive for the home owner in the long run, depending on market conditions.
 
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This is unusual to me. Why are there so many options on the east coast? Here in Seattle, it's almost all electric. Are the houses over there just really old?
You mean gas. Besides apartments, most are gas. I have never lived in a house with electric.

Gas Water Heater, Furnaces, etc.
 
So, just wanted to revisit this thread.
Bulk oil prices in my area are down to 2.549/Gal (orders over 500 or 1000 gallons)
322.5 Gallons @ 3.199
$209.63 extra for buying early. 20% drop
Anyone else feeling that burn from buying early?
 
I never buy early... it's almost always cheaper in winter than in july when they make you sign up.

i just topped up 188 gallons for 2.58 with a 10/c gal discount if paid net 10 so 2.48
 
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