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95b16coupe · 01-12-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by B

also garbage. lol

pretty much. lol

what was his overall 1/4 mile though?

mdpsEG · 01-12-2009, 06:38 PM

his best was a 15.2 and he just i/h/e and a clutch

95b16coupe · 01-12-2009, 06:47 PM

well, it makes sense. you are catching him on top end when you get traction. better tires and lsd and you are running mid 14's. end of story.

mdpsEG · 01-12-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 95b16coupe

well, it makes sense. you are catching him on top end when you get traction. better tires and lsd and you are running mid 14's. end of story.

so you think its worth it to pick up a couple wheels and put some drag radials on there? or maybe just get some better tires when these toyos wear out.... what are some good street tires anyways since you say the proxes and the neogens are garbage?

Old$koolLude · 01-12-2009, 08:38 PM

do some weight reduction too ....

frodotoolbox · 01-12-2009, 09:51 PM

nitto 555 are pretty good they are more street but they can hold up pretty well under drag conditions.
or if u just want some slicks imo hoosier is the best.

B · 01-12-2009, 10:32 PM

lol maybe for mustangs...
AFAIK, hoosier doesn't even make anything that will fit a honda.
Hoosier D.O.T. Drag Radial Tires - summitracing.com

none of those will clear the fenders... no way.

I personally think drag racing is f'ing gay... so, i wouldn't recommend buying wheels/tires for drag unless its something you're into.

you'll have a LOT more fun turning

frodotoolbox · 01-12-2009, 10:40 PM

my thoughts also B thats y i got into the scca more fun not expensive at all and meet cool new people.
but if he wants too, all for him

frodotoolbox · 01-12-2009, 10:40 PM

my thoughts also B thats y i got into the scca more fun not expensive at all and meet cool new people.
but if he wants too, all for him

frodotoolbox · 01-12-2009, 10:41 PM

my thoughts also B thats y i got into the scca more fun not expensive at all and meet cool new people.
but if he wants too, all for him

hctim00 · 01-12-2009, 10:43 PM

d15b16coupe- was that a serious post about not removing ps and a/c? cus that was the dumbest comment ive ever heard if it was. removing ps and a/c equal weight reduction which u would run faster prolly not alot but it helps and that would be saying pro teams are ricers cuz there full drag cars dont ahve that.

hctim00 · 01-12-2009, 10:44 PM

d15b16coupe- was that a serious post about not removing ps and a/c? cus that was the dumbest comment ive ever heard if it was. removing ps and a/c equal weight reduction which u would run faster prolly not alot but it helps and that would be saying pro teams are ricers cuz there full drag cars dont ahve that.

K2e2vin · 01-13-2009, 03:38 AM

<-Doesn't have A/C or P/S...car didn't come with it. A/C adds around 60-lbs; at least on the 88-91's.

Also, drag racing correctly does not mean parts will break unless they can't handle the output.

mdpsEG · 01-13-2009, 06:35 AM

im not trying to build a drag car.... next time i go to the track ill take my system out, and buying slicks or DRs is far from the top of the list of things i want to buy for my car. this thread is great though, nice suggestions all around. i live so close to moroso that im definitely going to have to go back. it was fun the first time, and im sure it will be more fun if i get better and more consistent. im sure my car could run 14s as it sits right now.... ill let ya know

newb · 01-13-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by hctim00

d15b16coupe- was that a serious post about not removing ps and a/c? cus that was the dumbest comment ive ever heard if it was. removing ps and a/c equal weight reduction which u would run faster prolly not alot but it helps and that would be saying pro teams are ricers cuz there full drag cars dont ahve that.

You fail. Both times. Its called parasitic loss. Look it up.

95b16coupe · 01-13-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by hctim00

d15b16coupe- was that a serious post about not removing ps and a/c? cus that was the dumbest comment ive ever heard if it was. removing ps and a/c equal weight reduction which u would run faster prolly not alot but it helps and that would be saying pro teams are ricers cuz there full drag cars dont ahve that.

oMgHi2u!!!!!! STFU

pro teams with full drag cars are VERY different from what the OP drives. look at his car. and 50lbs on a full interior wont do shit. it MIGHT take off .005 off of a 1/4 time. and anybody driving dd car doesn't care about that minute.

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Originally Posted by K2e2vin

<-Doesn't have A/C or P/S...car didn't come with it. A/C adds around 60-lbs; at least on the 88-91's.

Also, drag racing correctly does not mean parts will break unless they can't handle the output.

an ef hatch weighs a lot less than a dc integra. plus, ef's suck so not having ac and ps doesn't matter. most people with ef's don't even have working ac.

and yes, drag racing does break parts. i don't care if you are javier ricer or bisi and his insight, shit breaks.

feathering the clutch during launch wears the shit out of it. all racing breaks shit. nothing is safe.

newb · 01-13-2009, 11:49 AM

The Hot Rod Power Tour showcases cars that race without breakin parts.

K2e2vin · 01-13-2009, 12:08 PM

And Bisi hasn't broken anything yet. There's plenty of other people who haven't broke anything. It all boils down to maintenance and knowing the limits of the vehicle.

Also, a clutch is a wear-item, so it's expected to wear out. Most drag racers use kevlar and or ceramic discs which last much longer.

IMO, 88-91>+92's.

IIRC, CRX's dominate the polls in GRM-races. It's a good thing to use opinions in arguments

95b16coupe · 01-13-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by K2e2vin

And Bisi hasn't broken anything yet.

i'm sure bisi has broken TONS of stuff. clutches, axles, wheels, headgaskets, etc.

K2e2vin · 01-13-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 95b16coupe

i'm sure bisi has broken TONS of stuff. clutches, axles, wheels, headgaskets, etc.

You sure about that? Many people watch his races, I don't think he has any DNF's.

95b16coupe · 01-13-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by K2e2vin

You sure about that? Many people watch his races, I don't think he has any DNF's.

include testing and i'm sure he has broken stuff.

K2e2vin · 01-13-2009, 12:38 PM

If you ever talk to Bisi, you will find out most of his testing and research occurs before the parts ever go in the engine. I don't know about his current F22A, but his D15B lasted a couple of seasons before being retired. That guy is VERY meticulous.

95b16coupe · 01-13-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by K2e2vin

If you ever talk to Bisi, you will find out most of his testing and research occurs before the parts ever go in the engine. I don't know about his current F22A, but his D15B lasted a couple of seasons before being retired. That guy is VERY meticulous.

yeah, i've talked to him. he's one of the coolest guys in the car racing scene. if not THE coolest guy. he will talk to anyone and everyone who has a question. you have to be careful though, he's a nerd and the convo can quickly go over your/my head.

Madnessknight89 · 08-31-2009, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 95b16coupe

unfortunately thats what it does.

DO NOT REMOVE YOUR AC. just make sure it's all off. only stupid ricers remove ps and ac, and think it makes them faster.

get an lsd and some slicks or drag radials, a good header and exhaust. some itr cams a killer tune, low 14's high 13's will be easy.

that's funny as shit but not true I just bought a 91 ex with zc no ps or ac in it and my friend has same car and motor and he's never infront of me. So it helps just not a lot

Madnessknight89 · 08-31-2009, 03:04 AM

Sorry every one that's DX not ex

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frodotoolbox 95 del sol D16 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: sc Posts: 368 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1995 honda civic del sol stock i/e Rep Power: 8	my thoughts also B thats y i got into the scca more fun not expensive at all and meet cool new people. but if he wants too, all for him __________________ rep is always appreciated. 95 del sol-died 10-24-08 (but will come back to life frankenstein style) soon to be 1973 opel gt- waiting on the clutch a$$ holes havent sent it out yet. XBL Gamertag: jamietoolbox (all one word)

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mdpsEG Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: north palm beach, FL Age: 29 Posts: 881 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: JRSC B20/vtec DC, Nissan Xterra SE Rep Power: 43	his best was a 15.2 and he just i/h/e and a clutch

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hctim00 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: wisconsin Age: 20 Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 civic with gsr Rep Power: 12	d15b16coupe- was that a serious post about not removing ps and a/c? cus that was the dumbest comment ive ever heard if it was. removing ps and a/c equal weight reduction which u would run faster prolly not alot but it helps and that would be saying pro teams are ricers cuz there full drag cars dont ahve that.

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hctim00 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: wisconsin Age: 20 Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 civic with gsr Rep Power: 12	d15b16coupe- was that a serious post about not removing ps and a/c? cus that was the dumbest comment ive ever heard if it was. removing ps and a/c equal weight reduction which u would run faster prolly not alot but it helps and that would be saying pro teams are ricers cuz there full drag cars dont ahve that.

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K2e2vin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 22 Posts: 6,359 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 88 Honda Civic HB Rep Power: 150	<-Doesn't have A/C or P/S...car didn't come with it. A/C adds around 60-lbs; at least on the 88-91's. Also, drag racing correctly does not mean parts will break unless they can't handle the output. __________________ 1988 Honda Civic Standard-more mods than I want to list 1992 Honda Accord LX 1996 Toyota Avalon-Spun bearing, for sale. Terrorists have successfully attacked our imagination. RIP Jon Eban Nie, August 31, 1991 - May 7, 2006 Y-Daniel Siu Eban, September 7, 1986 - May 7, 2006

01-13-2009, 06:35 AM	#39
mdpsEG Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: north palm beach, FL Age: 29 Posts: 881 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: JRSC B20/vtec DC, Nissan Xterra SE Rep Power: 43	im not trying to build a drag car.... next time i go to the track ill take my system out, and buying slicks or DRs is far from the top of the list of things i want to buy for my car. this thread is great though, nice suggestions all around. i live so close to moroso that im definitely going to have to go back. it was fun the first time, and im sure it will be more fun if i get better and more consistent. im sure my car could run 14s as it sits right now.... ill let ya know

01-13-2009, 12:08 PM	#43
K2e2vin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 22 Posts: 6,359 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 88 Honda Civic HB Rep Power: 150	And Bisi hasn't broken anything yet. There's plenty of other people who haven't broke anything. It all boils down to maintenance and knowing the limits of the vehicle. Also, a clutch is a wear-item, so it's expected to wear out. Most drag racers use kevlar and or ceramic discs which last much longer. IMO, 88-91>+92's. IIRC, CRX's dominate the polls in GRM-races. It's a good thing to use opinions in arguments __________________ 1988 Honda Civic Standard-more mods than I want to list 1992 Honda Accord LX 1996 Toyota Avalon-Spun bearing, for sale. Terrorists have successfully attacked our imagination. RIP Jon Eban Nie, August 31, 1991 - May 7, 2006 Y-Daniel Siu Eban, September 7, 1986 - May 7, 2006 Last edited by K2e2vin; 01-13-2009 at 12:13 PM.

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K2e2vin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 22 Posts: 6,359 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 88 Honda Civic HB Rep Power: 150	If you ever talk to Bisi, you will find out most of his testing and research occurs before the parts ever go in the engine. I don't know about his current F22A, but his D15B lasted a couple of seasons before being retired. That guy is VERY meticulous. __________________ 1988 Honda Civic Standard-more mods than I want to list 1992 Honda Accord LX 1996 Toyota Avalon-Spun bearing, for sale. Terrorists have successfully attacked our imagination. RIP Jon Eban Nie, August 31, 1991 - May 7, 2006 Y-Daniel Siu Eban, September 7, 1986 - May 7, 2006

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