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YouKnowWhoIBee · 06-26-2004, 09:18 PM

Nopi nationals (race wars for the ricers) is around my way this weekend at buds creek. There was alot of fast hondas. There was a 11 second all motor personally owned civic hatch just in the normal no class runs. Eric Aguilar was there. Anyway there was maybe 5 s2000s running and they all turned mid to high 15's and as far as i seen and heard they were all stock (except for the turboed one that was in the car show and not running). I didnt realize they were that slow? Do you think it was bad driving or are they really that slow??? Thanks in advance for your help in answering my question.

pissedoffsol · 06-26-2004, 09:29 PM

s2000s are not drag cars.

its like taking a 67 nova with a 454 and a locked rear diff on an autox.

they are meant for road course

2000Si · 06-26-2004, 11:02 PM

werd. but there's tons of variables, what altitude are you guys at? wast it 150 degrees all day? were they all on street tires?

dohch22a4 · 06-26-2004, 11:13 PM

I've stomped the everloving shit out of an S2k on the drag strip, but I didn't get a big head because that car isnt made for dick-swinging straight line times. The S2000 isn't a drag car. The S2000 is made for the turns where it thrives. Ever seen a touge video of an s2k? It owns like no other.

YouKnowWhoIBee · 06-26-2004, 11:27 PM

I just figured a car that weight around 2800 pounds with 240 horsepower would turn alittle higher than that. But oh well thanks for ur impute. And btw it was about 80 degrees and it is in md. And the track is only 80 feet above sea level. But anyways thanks.

dohch22a4 · 06-26-2004, 11:36 PM

Jesus, in those conditions a decen t driver should be able to turn at least high 14's. Also, it's not the lack of horsepower that drags down the time, it's the lack of torque. In stock trim, the s2k dynos maybe 140wtq. The '04 models with the F22 dynos about ten more lbft, but it's still lackluster. I don't really give a shit though, I'd love to own one regardless.

JDMilan · 06-27-2004, 03:08 PM

14.1 stock if I am not mistaken, too many variables to consider

pissedoffsol · 06-27-2004, 03:50 PM

this thread sucks

waggyss2000 · 06-27-2004, 03:59 PM

I pulled a 13.7 out of my 02 s2k which surpised me none the less it is what it is. I live in ohio so take it what you will.

JDMilan · 06-28-2004, 10:42 PM

pretty damn good for a bone stock S2k,

2000Si · 06-28-2004, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by waggyss2000@Jun 27 2004, 02:59 PM
I pulled a 13.7 out of my 02 s2k which surpised me none the less it is what it is. I live in ohio so take it what you will.

that rocks. I know plenty of Mustang guys who think a stock S2k can't reach anything less than a 14.5.

**Loco Honkey** · 06-28-2004, 11:33 PM

I farted.

2000Si · 06-28-2004, 11:48 PM

Copy off of E a bit more, why don't you mr originality...

dohch22a4 · 06-29-2004, 12:58 AM

Wow, that must have been a 13.7 at twnety thousand leagues beneath the sea. Professional drivers can barely squeeze off a 14.1 wit those things. Not saying I don't believe it, it's just super unlikely for a bone stock s2k to run a 13.7.

A timeslip would be cool. B)

CRX2NR18 · 06-29-2004, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by waggyss2000@Jun 27 2004, 02:59 PM
I pulled a 13.7 out of my 02 s2k which surpised me none the less it is what it is. I live in ohio so take it what you will.

yeah i know u, i bought games off u haha, yeah here in ohio people seem to get better times for some reason B)

2000Si · 06-29-2004, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dohch22a4@Jun 28 2004, 11:58 PM
Wow, that must have been a 13.7 at twnety thousand leagues beneath the sea. Professional drivers can barely squeeze off a 14.1 wit those things. Not saying I don't believe it, it's just super unlikely for a bone stock s2k to run a 13.7.

A timeslip would be cool. B)

shyeaaah he had a snorkel on his intake and exhaust.

dohch22a4 · 06-29-2004, 11:06 PM

Must have, either that or ran it at Atlantis International Raceway. All I'm saying is that a bone stock s2k will not run in the 13's, ever, even at sea level, hence the 20k leagues reference. Not gonna happen. Think I'm wrong? Gimme a timeslip and I'll shut up.

waggyss2000 · 06-29-2004, 11:18 PM

ok it was on a Mustang Dynamometer does that not count. i can try to find the print out i was giving and no its not doctored up. But if it doesn't count or no one cares i will not try to find it. If it means anything they have had people run the same exact #'s at the track as on the dyno. I will look for that print out of my horsepower and 1/4 mile run.

this is the website of the dyno maker they say it is ac
http://www.mustangdyne.com/

92b16vx · 06-30-2004, 02:58 AM

No, a dyno timeslip isn't the same as a track time.

And besides the twisties, they have a nice top end. I posted a video on here a long time ago of a top end run hitting 281km/h (175.6 mp/h).

dohch22a4 · 06-30-2004, 06:12 AM

Take it to the track and I'll paypal you 50 dollars if you lay down faster than a 14.1

civic15.8 · 07-01-2004, 11:00 PM

me and my dad only pulled off a 14.9 in our 01. But like B said they are not for drag racing. road course all the way in a s2k. that or just for pimping around town in.

EyelessCRX · 07-02-2004, 01:48 PM

I was at the same event and the S2000's were running really shitty. The owners werent driving them hard at all. They could have run better times but not much better.

spoonredneck · 07-07-2004, 07:00 PM

No S2000s do suck in the 1/4 mile. Gearing and lack of torque is the fault here. But take them around some cornors, damn boys, these things grip the road.

nismogod · 07-07-2004, 08:26 PM

yea, no. dyno "1/4 mile" runs dont count for crap. there are far less variables. one guy tried to tell me he could run his bike in the high 9's at the track. and when i asked if he had he said "nah, but i did it on the dyno, same thing"

same thing? No, that mofo was strapped down. no flipping to worry about, no loss of control, perfect track conditions <well, conditions on demand>, no issues with traction etc.

thats why dyno runs mean dick compared to real life runs. I'd own an S2k, but i'm fat, and i could think of alot better ways to spend 30+ thousand dollars. but thats me.

2000Si · 07-07-2004, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spoonredneck@Jul 7 2004, 06:00 PM
No S2000s do suck in the 1/4 mile. Gearing and lack of torque is the fault here. But take them around some cornors, damn boys, these things grip the road.

low 14s from a 4 banger even with shitty 60 foot times is not cause to say it sucks in the 1/4 mile.

06-26-2004, 11:13 PM	#4
dohch22a4 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 1,745 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 31	I've stomped the everloving shit out of an S2k on the drag strip, but I didn't get a big head because that car isnt made for dick-swinging straight line times. The S2000 isn't a drag car. The S2000 is made for the turns where it thrives. Ever seen a touge video of an s2k? It owns like no other. __________________ "Conventional wisdom would have one believe that it is insane to resist this, the mightiest of empires... but what history really shows is that today's empire is tomorrow's ashes, that nothing lasts forever, and that to not resist is to acquiesce in your own oppression. The greatest form of sanity that anyone can exercise is to resist that force that is trying to repress, oppress and fight the human spirit." -Mumia Abu-Jamal

06-26-2004, 11:36 PM	#6
dohch22a4 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 1,745 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 31	Jesus, in those conditions a decen t driver should be able to turn at least high 14's. Also, it's not the lack of horsepower that drags down the time, it's the lack of torque. In stock trim, the s2k dynos maybe 140wtq. The '04 models with the F22 dynos about ten more lbft, but it's still lackluster. I don't really give a shit though, I'd love to own one regardless. __________________ "Conventional wisdom would have one believe that it is insane to resist this, the mightiest of empires... but what history really shows is that today's empire is tomorrow's ashes, that nothing lasts forever, and that to not resist is to acquiesce in your own oppression. The greatest form of sanity that anyone can exercise is to resist that force that is trying to repress, oppress and fight the human spirit." -Mumia Abu-Jamal

06-27-2004, 03:08 PM	#7
JDMilan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 6,733 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 81	14.1 stock if I am not mistaken, too many variables to consider __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">"92 Blue EG"</span> -Project 3 - Motor A (NA stock SiR longblock B16 EG/S1tran) 14.3@97 15" radial tires & Gutted -Project 3 - Motor B (NA stock SiRII longblock B16 EG/S4tran) 13.3@103 MT's & Gutted <span style=\"color:red\">"Goldy S13"</span> -Project 4 - Motor A (FI SR20DET w/T28 "Under Construction&quot <span style=\"color:red\">"Silver E46"</span> -Project 5 - Motor A (???)

06-28-2004, 10:42 PM	#10
JDMilan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 6,733 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 81	pretty damn good for a bone stock S2k, __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">"92 Blue EG"</span> -Project 3 - Motor A (NA stock SiR longblock B16 EG/S1tran) 14.3@97 15" radial tires & Gutted -Project 3 - Motor B (NA stock SiRII longblock B16 EG/S4tran) 13.3@103 MT's & Gutted <span style=\"color:red\">"Goldy S13"</span> -Project 4 - Motor A (FI SR20DET w/T28 "Under Construction&quot <span style=\"color:red\">"Silver E46"</span> -Project 5 - Motor A (???)

06-29-2004, 12:58 AM	#14
dohch22a4 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 1,745 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 31	Wow, that must have been a 13.7 at twnety thousand leagues beneath the sea. Professional drivers can barely squeeze off a 14.1 wit those things. Not saying I don't believe it, it's just super unlikely for a bone stock s2k to run a 13.7. A timeslip would be cool. B) __________________ "Conventional wisdom would have one believe that it is insane to resist this, the mightiest of empires... but what history really shows is that today's empire is tomorrow's ashes, that nothing lasts forever, and that to not resist is to acquiesce in your own oppression. The greatest form of sanity that anyone can exercise is to resist that force that is trying to repress, oppress and fight the human spirit." -Mumia Abu-Jamal


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06-26-2004, 09:18 PM	#1
YouKnowWhoIBee my avatar is better. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Maryland Age: 25 Posts: 2,241 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 52	Nopi nationals (race wars for the ricers) is around my way this weekend at buds creek. There was alot of fast hondas. There was a 11 second all motor personally owned civic hatch just in the normal no class runs. Eric Aguilar was there. Anyway there was maybe 5 s2000s running and they all turned mid to high 15's and as far as i seen and heard they were all stock (except for the turboed one that was in the car show and not running). I didnt realize they were that slow? Do you think it was bad driving or are they really that slow??? Thanks in advance for your help in answering my question.

06-26-2004, 09:29 PM	#2
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	s2000s are not drag cars. its like taking a 67 nova with a 454 and a locked rear diff on an autox. they are meant for road course

06-26-2004, 11:27 PM	#5
YouKnowWhoIBee my avatar is better. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Maryland Age: 25 Posts: 2,241 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 52	I just figured a car that weight around 2800 pounds with 240 horsepower would turn alittle higher than that. But oh well thanks for ur impute. And btw it was about 80 degrees and it is in md. And the track is only 80 feet above sea level. But anyways thanks.

06-27-2004, 03:50 PM	#8
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	this thread sucks

06-27-2004, 03:59 PM	#9
waggyss2000 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 23 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 12	I pulled a 13.7 out of my 02 s2k which surpised me none the less it is what it is. I live in ohio so take it what you will.

06-28-2004, 11:33 PM	#12
Loco Honkey Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,657 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	I farted.

06-29-2004, 11:06 PM	#17
dohch22a4 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 1,745 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 31	Must have, either that or ran it at Atlantis International Raceway. All I'm saying is that a bone stock s2k will not run in the 13's, ever, even at sea level, hence the 20k leagues reference. Not gonna happen. Think I'm wrong? Gimme a timeslip and I'll shut up. __________________ "Conventional wisdom would have one believe that it is insane to resist this, the mightiest of empires... but what history really shows is that today's empire is tomorrow's ashes, that nothing lasts forever, and that to not resist is to acquiesce in your own oppression. The greatest form of sanity that anyone can exercise is to resist that force that is trying to repress, oppress and fight the human spirit." -Mumia Abu-Jamal

06-29-2004, 11:18 PM	#18
waggyss2000 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 23 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 12	ok it was on a Mustang Dynamometer does that not count. i can try to find the print out i was giving and no its not doctored up. But if it doesn't count or no one cares i will not try to find it. If it means anything they have had people run the same exact #'s at the track as on the dyno. I will look for that print out of my horsepower and 1/4 mile run. this is the website of the dyno maker they say it is ac http://www.mustangdyne.com/

06-30-2004, 02:58 AM	#19
92b16vx B happy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Location: Location: Location: Age: 38 Posts: 13,020 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: dohc 95 egg Rep Power: 186	No, a dyno timeslip isn't the same as a track time. And besides the twisties, they have a nice top end. I posted a video on here a long time ago of a top end run hitting 281km/h (175.6 mp/h). __________________ 95 CX\|B16A2 XBL \| binary xj0hnx \| Halo 3

06-30-2004, 06:12 AM	#20
dohch22a4 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 1,745 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 31	Take it to the track and I'll paypal you 50 dollars if you lay down faster than a 14.1 __________________ "Conventional wisdom would have one believe that it is insane to resist this, the mightiest of empires... but what history really shows is that today's empire is tomorrow's ashes, that nothing lasts forever, and that to not resist is to acquiesce in your own oppression. The greatest form of sanity that anyone can exercise is to resist that force that is trying to repress, oppress and fight the human spirit." -Mumia Abu-Jamal

07-01-2004, 11:00 PM	#21
civic15.8 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: alabama Posts: 521 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 19	me and my dad only pulled off a 14.9 in our 01. But like B said they are not for drag racing. road course all the way in a s2k. that or just for pimping around town in. __________________ bagged and dragin

07-02-2004, 01:48 PM	#22
EyelessCRX Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 21 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 11	I was at the same event and the S2000's were running really shitty. The owners werent driving them hard at all. They could have run better times but not much better. __________________ 91 CRX HF AEM Short Ram Intake Custom Exhaust Wings West Body Kit Neuspeed Short Shifter Tokico Illuminas 2 12 in. Type E Alpine subs Alpine 250 watt amp (all I could afford) Pioneer Head Unit

07-07-2004, 07:00 PM	#23
spoonredneck Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	No S2000s do suck in the 1/4 mile. Gearing and lack of torque is the fault here. But take them around some cornors, damn boys, these things grip the road. __________________ honda tech www.jdmeast.com <a href=\'http://www.cardomain.com/id/jdmeast\' target=\'_blank\'>http://www.cardomain.com/id/jdmeast</a> Team Xtreme Disturbance Team Image Dynamics

07-07-2004, 08:26 PM	#24
nismogod Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 1,031 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 24	yea, no. dyno "1/4 mile" runs dont count for crap. there are far less variables. one guy tried to tell me he could run his bike in the high 9's at the track. and when i asked if he had he said "nah, but i did it on the dyno, same thing" same thing? No, that mofo was strapped down. no flipping to worry about, no loss of control, perfect track conditions <well, conditions on demand>, no issues with traction etc. thats why dyno runs mean dick compared to real life runs. I'd own an S2k, but i'm fat, and i could think of alot better ways to spend 30+ thousand dollars. but thats me. __________________ Power is nothing without Control.

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