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squeals · 10-26-2009, 11:46 AM

what would it take for me to make 250 wheel horse power with my dc5? ive got intake and exhuast. i know K-pro would help but what else would i need to make 250?

AHHVTEC · 10-26-2009, 11:47 AM

cams, and a new civic si intake manifold

squeals · 10-26-2009, 11:50 AM

damn dude your everywhere. so an FD intake manifold, is that a direct bolt on?

AHHVTEC · 10-26-2009, 11:57 AM

now days you can buy them that are already modded to fit right one but if not, its bolts right up but you have to cut on the edge of it. its got to do with the water lines and all. but if i was to do it i would buy one thats already set to go

squeals · 10-26-2009, 12:01 PM

where would i find one that is already modded to fit? and how much power increase would i be looking at with that manifold?

AHHVTEC · 10-26-2009, 12:03 PM

Club RSX.com: ClubRSX RBC Intake Manifold

AHHVTEC · 10-26-2009, 12:05 PM

but keep in mind even though you can get good deals at clubrsx. that is the worse web site ive ever seen there just a bunch of ass holes.

Dark93DX · 10-27-2009, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeals

where would i find one that is already modded to fit? and how much power increase would i be looking at with that manifold?

https://www.k20tuned.com/xcart/produ...cat=100&page=1

A good header would help to. Are you running a 3" exhaust?

squeals · 11-02-2009, 12:02 AM

i've got the greddy sp2 exhaust. i wanted something quiet. it's 2.75 inches though

AHHVTEC · 11-02-2009, 01:56 AM

love that exhaust ^^

Dark93DX · 11-03-2009, 03:33 PM

you may need an adapter plate to bolt your TB to the RBC manifold, Karcepts sells them.

Karcepts Engineered Solutions - RBC Solutions

Skunk2 makes a 70mm TB for the RSX as well.

squeals · 11-03-2009, 05:10 PM

yeah it's a great exhaust, real quiet but opens up when i vtec. i just installed some hard motor mount inserts. a bit more shaky but man, you can tell the biggest difference

Taco15 · 11-03-2009, 09:23 PM

your gonna need some money for sure. Check out the import tuning mag in comparing the boosted k20 hatch against the all motor one. Also the mag with the 250whp na setup they had too.

it takes some serious cash. minor bolt ones wont do it. you will need to boost up compression and get good cams. Of course the usual header,exhaust, intake are also needed. but its the tuning to make it work thats gonna run you some serious cash.

squeals · 11-05-2009, 09:16 AM

I saw that article comparing the two, it makes me want to go boost, but my friend has a boosted type s and i just don't want to have those kind of problems. i also have a friend doing 220 whp with only the basic h/i/e and a good tune with kpro. There's a place near Charlotte where i live where you can get an amazing tune......220 whp with basics? Thats the only reason why i figured i could get 250 with a nice set of cams and that intake manifold. plus if i threw in a nice clutch and a light flywheel......oh baby

AHHVTEC · 11-05-2009, 11:59 AM

yeah its possible, you can always super charge it to

Taco15 · 11-05-2009, 12:08 PM

K is the shit BUT, i hate the kpro or other tuning shit is hella expensive. i would love to tune my rsx since it does have some good quality bolt ons. Unless i find cams for cheap, i'm keeping it the way it is. Its spunky enough for a what it is.

Dark93DX · 11-13-2009, 12:19 AM

Its expensive for sure, but then you get what you pay for. If you want to run OEM Honda cams then the 06 TSX cams are the best choice with an RBC manifold.

Taco15 · 11-13-2009, 10:49 AM

so tsx cams on a k20a2 are like GSR cams for a b16?

ZCpowerdSI · 11-13-2009, 11:00 AM

Get some lighter pullies too!

phyregod · 11-13-2009, 11:29 AM

Lighter pulleys don't make horsepower.

Taco15 · 11-13-2009, 11:41 AM

i never really was into the pully thing. i could see it being a benifit when removing the a/c and using the CTR one but other than that, underdrive pullies to me were never worth the money.

lighter flywheel is a little different.

I plan on buying one when i replace the clutch.

ZCpowerdSI · 11-13-2009, 12:31 PM

Correction,

Aftermarket "LIGHTENED" pulleys will recover lost horsepower due less rotational mass. Basically every pound of rotation mass is equvilent to 10 pounds dry mass. This will require less output being taken from the crank to run these accessories. Underdrive pulleys are usually made of aluminum versus the default steel type of pulleys. Unless the O.E. pulley weighs less, you will make more HP. Also, a simple example of this has to do with why people are generally worried about how much their wheels weigh in regards to racing / dynoing. Lighter wheels will make your car faster for sure

Taco15 · 11-13-2009, 12:46 PM

true. But there is also something call balance. The motors all have been balanced with the the oem pully to match the crank and all other components.

Total noob question here but dont you think this might actually harm the motor alittle.

what your saying makes sense but since i have never done the pully swap i dont know the facts

Matts96HB · 11-13-2009, 01:30 PM

What Taco is saying is correct, and basically it has to do with the dampening in the OEM pulleys. It simply isn't present in the aftermarket pulleys except for a very few select brands. I know Fluidyne makes aftermarket crank pulleys with the dampeners on them. Get one without the dampener and sit tight for some pre-mature main bearing wear.

Slow&Delirious · 11-13-2009, 08:00 PM

the camshaft would get you the most bang for the buck, and sound the coolest
assuming you can do it your self, otherwise it might cost a lot

10-26-2009, 11:46 AM	#1
squeals Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 18 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 06 BOM DC5 Rep Power: 7	250 whp N/A? what would it take for me to make 250 wheel horse power with my dc5? ive got intake and exhuast. i know K-pro would help but what else would i need to make 250? __________________ Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me Vtec

10-26-2009, 11:50 AM	#3
squeals Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 18 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 06 BOM DC5 Rep Power: 7	damn dude your everywhere. so an FD intake manifold, is that a direct bolt on? __________________ Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me Vtec

10-26-2009, 12:01 PM	#5
squeals Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 18 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 06 BOM DC5 Rep Power: 7	where would i find one that is already modded to fit? and how much power increase would i be looking at with that manifold? __________________ Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me Vtec

11-02-2009, 12:02 AM	#9
squeals Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 18 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 06 BOM DC5 Rep Power: 7	i've got the greddy sp2 exhaust. i wanted something quiet. it's 2.75 inches though __________________ Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me Vtec

11-03-2009, 03:33 PM	#11
Dark93DX Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: B.C. Posts: 422 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 10	you may need an adapter plate to bolt your TB to the RBC manifold, Karcepts sells them. Karcepts Engineered Solutions - RBC Solutions Skunk2 makes a 70mm TB for the RSX as well. __________________ K20Z3 EG - Installed, waiting for Kpro LSD w/ 4.764 FD B18A CRX


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10-26-2009, 11:47 AM	#2
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,377 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	cams, and a new civic si intake manifold

10-26-2009, 11:57 AM	#4
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,377 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	now days you can buy them that are already modded to fit right one but if not, its bolts right up but you have to cut on the edge of it. its got to do with the water lines and all. but if i was to do it i would buy one thats already set to go

10-26-2009, 12:03 PM	#6
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,377 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	Club RSX.com: ClubRSX RBC Intake Manifold

10-26-2009, 12:05 PM	#7
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,377 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	but keep in mind even though you can get good deals at clubrsx. that is the worse web site ive ever seen there just a bunch of ass holes.

11-02-2009, 01:56 AM	#10
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,377 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	love that exhaust ^^

11-03-2009, 05:10 PM	#12
squeals Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 18 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 06 BOM DC5 Rep Power: 7	yeah it's a great exhaust, real quiet but opens up when i vtec. i just installed some hard motor mount inserts. a bit more shaky but man, you can tell the biggest difference __________________ Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me Vtec

11-05-2009, 09:16 AM	#14
squeals Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 18 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 06 BOM DC5 Rep Power: 7	I saw that article comparing the two, it makes me want to go boost, but my friend has a boosted type s and i just don't want to have those kind of problems. i also have a friend doing 220 whp with only the basic h/i/e and a good tune with kpro. There's a place near Charlotte where i live where you can get an amazing tune......220 whp with basics? Thats the only reason why i figured i could get 250 with a nice set of cams and that intake manifold. plus if i threw in a nice clutch and a light flywheel......oh baby __________________ Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me Vtec

11-05-2009, 11:59 AM	#15
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,377 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	yeah its possible, you can always super charge it to

11-13-2009, 12:19 AM	#17
Dark93DX Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: B.C. Posts: 422 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 10	Its expensive for sure, but then you get what you pay for. If you want to run OEM Honda cams then the 06 TSX cams are the best choice with an RBC manifold. __________________ K20Z3 EG - Installed, waiting for Kpro LSD w/ 4.764 FD B18A CRX Last edited by Dark93DX; 11-13-2009 at 01:01 AM.

11-13-2009, 11:00 AM	#19
ZCpowerdSI Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ON, Canada Age: 19 Posts: 49 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 Honda Civic Si Hatch Rep Power: 1	Get some lighter pullies too!

11-13-2009, 12:31 PM	#22
ZCpowerdSI Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ON, Canada Age: 19 Posts: 49 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 Honda Civic Si Hatch Rep Power: 1	Correction, Aftermarket "LIGHTENED" pulleys will recover lost horsepower due less rotational mass. Basically every pound of rotation mass is equvilent to 10 pounds dry mass. This will require less output being taken from the crank to run these accessories. Underdrive pulleys are usually made of aluminum versus the default steel type of pulleys. Unless the O.E. pulley weighs less, you will make more HP. Also, a simple example of this has to do with why people are generally worried about how much their wheels weigh in regards to racing / dynoing. Lighter wheels will make your car faster for sure

11-13-2009, 01:30 PM	#24
Matts96HB F.I. Junkie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Spokane, WA Age: 19 Posts: 2,658 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1996 Civic, 1992 Accord Rep Power: 101	What Taco is saying is correct, and basically it has to do with the dampening in the OEM pulleys. It simply isn't present in the aftermarket pulleys except for a very few select brands. I know Fluidyne makes aftermarket crank pulleys with the dampeners on them. Get one without the dampener and sit tight for some pre-mature main bearing wear. __________________ XBOX LIVE GT: teb00stcat (00's are zeroes) -320 WHP EJ6-

11-13-2009, 08:00 PM	#25
Slow&Delirious Err ___ GTFO Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Orlando FL. Age: 20 Posts: 468 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 01' Civic & 95' Del Sol Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 13	the camshaft would get you the most bang for the buck, and sound the coolest assuming you can do it your self, otherwise it might cost a lot __________________ (((Family Guy FTW)))

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