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@ detec It was definatly the iatv that i cleaned, as for the fitv i was reminded of it earlier by someone and i totally overlooked it. Thanks for your reply and i will go and try your idea asap. Its dumping snow on us here right now so ill see how far i get and let you know later. Thanks...

Well first off this is my first post and i am sort of a noobie to the whole Honda experience. My background is with motorcycles as i am a mechanic of 5 years. A lot of my friends have hondas so most stuff is not that new to me and neither is troubleshooting. You wont find me posting a question...