as talked about on the MR2 post... Lets lay out a how to run 11 secs in a car recipe Take a CRX or a 92-95 hatchback, then stip the car down. put some light weight wheels on the back and some nice 13" slicks on the front find yourself a GSR or LS/Vtec motor. Build the motor to make 200WHP Pair the motor up with a GSR tranny and do the basic bolt ons. Full ehxuast header back. Intake manifold. Throttle body. Do all of that and then learn how to drive a car and YOU WILL RUN 11s how can I say this? becuase I've seen it done! light wight plus so so power = pretty fast car Fred Ellis car was making around 200hp and weighed 1600lbs he ran 11.3 in it. Lets go another way about doing this Take a 92-95 civic with a GSR swap you can find them for 5-6K on ebay or around town. Buy a GOOD turbo kit and a thicker headgasket. basic fuel upgrades and guess what YOU'RE DONE! total cost? about 10K My friend paid 14K back in 2001 for a 99 Civic CX with a GSR motor with revhard turbo kit he ran a 11.9 on slicks keep in mind that was a turn key car from a import SHOP Lets all look at cheesefrogs car last time I checked he had a fairly lightly modded LS block..... gee 20-30K? If you tune a motor right you can make some pretty good power for awhile however hondas do tend to have crappy stock sleeves so resleeving is not a bad idea for when you make 300WHP or more however all of them make great track cars I woulnt drive it daily due to pushing the motor. but do keep in mind that once you drive a 300+WHP FWD on the street you will learn that driving it every day is not all that fun. There is A LOT of upkeep so making a track only car that makes sick power for cheap is not all that bad =) just fix stuff as it breaks Now if you want a car that you can trust when it comes to driving anywhere from CA to VA and back again then go with building the motor up as one day I plan to do again... When I get my own place with a nice size garage I'm going to build another civic I plan on spending around 10-12K total on the car and my goal is 400+ WHP 1-2K for the chassis 2-3K for turbo/IC/ECU 2K for custom manifold intake/exhuast 1K for custom exhuast 1K for fuel 3K for built motor ready for boost so far that's 12K Keep in mind I've been there done that so I know what I'm getting myself into. my first turbo car that is not making 380WHP on the daily driver setting, cost me about 15K to build but that was building THREE motors in the making and paying out the ass for some of the parts BTW it ran 11.6 a few weeks ago If I did it right the first time the car would have cost me around 18K that is with the cost of the car at $6800 20-30K? you guys are smoking some good shit!