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24 Hours of Lemons

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  1. 92stoccord

    92stoccord Big Member VIP

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    I know Doug has done it, but I've been reading a bit into it. I'd like to do it. 500 dollars is a slim budget. Non title cars seem like a risky bet, but it helps lower the price, and blown head gasket (assuming there's no cracks or warping) is a reasonably cheap fix but also sort of risky since I don't really know how long it's been driven like that.

    Mostly around here there's a couple grand prixs and a couple old buicks on Craigslist. Some sunfires. I'd like to find a shitty 90-93 Accord or a bombed out EF Hatch. Seems like the whole race would be a good time. I have a friend who is a certified welder who could do the cage. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?
     
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    I've got a 97 Sebring LXi with no catback, shit tires, and what sounds like a bad AC compressor I'll probably be junking soon... Reliable minus the slow oil consumption. But pretty big to be throwing around. Haha
     
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    Be prepared to spend 5 grand.
     
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    whiterabbit06 Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill? VIP

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    I was looking at the rules and such. Am I right in seeing that the entry fee is like $750 for driver and car then the winning prize is like $500?
     
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    Full track days are usually $500 depending on the track.
     
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    TSMP is about $150 per hour on average.
     
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    You can thank the insurance companies/lawyers/your fellow previous generation 'racers' who sued for their own/another driver's stupidity for that.

    the cost for a 1 day policy to cover an event like this is ridiculous.
     
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    Our team wound up spending something like 7k on the event.

    And we borrowed the truck and trailer, stayed at a team-mate's house for the race, bought a parts car for $50, used tires from everyone's garages, painted using rattle-can, got free vinyl lettering, sold about $3200 of stuff off the $2700 car we bought to run.

    What I'm getting at is that while a $500/car race seems like it'll be cheap, it's not. Prepare yourself for it.
     
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    I did Lemons for about 3 years. Pickles is right, expect to spend around 5-7k. All that safety equipment you need to make the car legal will cost money. I think we spent 4.5k on it and we had a shop sponsor us for lots of labor, rack and had a buddy do the cage.
     
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    I understand why the rule is there, but the fact that I may have to forfeit my car is the only reason why i will never participate in that event. at least if it involves financial effort from me. I'll sit for a segment if someone wants a driver :)
     
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    They've never taken someone's car.

    This rule is misunderstood slightly... The rule is that if the judges offer you $500 for your car, you have to accept the offer. (They add cash on top for the safety equipment.)

    It's to keep people honest. If your "$500 car" is really a "$2500 car" you would think twice about entering. It helps add more risk to people who would cheat.

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    In retrospect, our biggest mistake was not cheating at all. Other teams were highly "cheaty."
     
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    Yeah, again, i understand it. I would just be pissed as shit if i followed all the rules, came in under budget, and then lost my entire investment of man hours because I did it well. even if it is only worth $500 in parts.... you can't replace my time and to go home without a car, even if they gave me 5 grand for it instead of 500, i'd be pissed.

    I wouldn't care about the trophy/money, etc... i'd just want to do it again next year.
     
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    I've never seen them take someones car. Hell the last few times I participated no one got the peoples curse award either.

    Fact is you need to be a front runner by a large margin for them to take notice; which is no easy task... Best we ever did was an overall 11th and that was taking the race VERY seriously.
     
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    What did you sell off the car to recoup 3200? You raced an old nissan, right?
     
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    Safety equipment and consumables are not counted towards the $500. I'm not sure what was on the list for items sold, I don't think it was much. A good cage is going to run you close to $2,000 alone. Then you need race seat, belts, tires, brakes, communications equipment, fire system, fuel.. the shit adds up.

    Yes, we had an early 70's 240z with a 280 engine
     
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    Sounds like fun.
     
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    SlushboxTeggy It's only stupid if it doesn't work VIP

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    I've always thought this was cool. Even looked into it for a bit, but IDK, finding a $500 car in my area is next to impossible. It'd be a Dodge Shadow, or a Grand Cherokee with 300k, and neither would be currently running.
     
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    For 800 bucks around here you fan find multiple runners. Our emissions are very slack, so older cars survive. 500 would cut down your choices quite a bit though. Local auctions for towed vehicles would be a good place to start.
     
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