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87 CRX Si

Discussion in 'HYBRID -> ED-EF / DA' started by integrawow, Feb 3, 2006.

  1. integrawow

    integrawow Member

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    I really want to hear some opinions first, mainly because I am leaning towards buying an 87 CRX Si. I would love it if it were an 88+ model, but this one is a dam 87. I was at least considering a ZC swap, but would love to do a B18A (LS; duh!). The car does however have MPFI, but I found out that I would have to do a crap load of wiring conversion to get anything like a ZC or an LS motor in it. Yes, I do know that I would have to get conversion mounts for a b-series swap (I'm not a neewbie!). You would think that since the car comes with MPFI, that you could just leave it alone and just use it to control the b-series or the ZC, instead of trying to rewire the cars' wiring harness so that an OBD0 PR4 ecu can be used. It just pisses me off that I finally find a CRX chassis and it has to be a dam 87 and not an 88+ model. Why is it that the 88-91 CRX MPFI equipped cars can control a b-series and that for some reason an 87 CRX MPFI cannot unless you do a heck of a lot of wiring?

    What the hell is the deal? Because I can get this car for literally dirt cheap. I planned on making it a street/strip car, and I was soo pissed when I found that it was a dam 87 model. I am not trying to hate on pre-88 model cars, but it just looks like my plans for having a CRX with either a halfway decent ZC or better yet, a kick ass b-series motor on the spray, have all sort of gone down the drain.

    What should I do? WTF?
     
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    reckedracing TTIWWOP VIP

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    uhm...

    look for a newer chassis....
     
  3. jlicrx

    jlicrx Senior Member

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    the JDM "browntop" DOHC ZC (133hp) swap into the 87 Si requires only a minor wiring change at the distributor - simply moving 2 wires from the distributor connector to the CYL sensor on the exhaust cam on the ZC - bolts right into your chassis - you need to use 86-89 Integra transmission, intermediate shaft, axles, knuckles/hubs and shift linkage, all of which bolt right in - you would need the 86-87 (not 88-89) Integra PG7 ECU - actually, not much different than swapping a JDM "blacktop" DOHC ZC into a 88 CRX HF
     
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    What would be wrong with using the cars existing 5 speed tranny? It is a d-series equipped car.
     
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    jlicrx Senior Member

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    the 1g CRX/3g Civic transmission will not bolt to any other engines - won't even come close - the JDM "browntop" ZC and 86-89 Integra D16A1s are also D-series and their transmissions won't bolt correctly to any other D-series either
     
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    reckedracing TTIWWOP VIP

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    first gen crx was not d series
    its an EW4 if you have the SI

    86-87 and 88-89 integra trannies are said to be diffrent and not compatable

    i used a 87 integra brown top d16a1 with a 87 integra 5 speed and 87 integra ecu/distributor...

    upgrade to a better chassis

    you realize the first gen crx's have torsion bars right?
    and virtually NO aftermarket support...
     
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    jlicrx Senior Member

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    87 Si was labeled D15A3 (at least in the Civic, it was)
     
  8. Airjockie

    Airjockie Watanabe Whore!!!

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    Go stop by www.redpepperracing.com .... all the info in the world is on there for all the 84-87 Civic and CRX's...and plenty of aftermarket support can be found.

    And yes...D15A3 for the 87 si...they just called the carbed D15's EW's for a while..but the blocks are the same..
     
  9. integrawow

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    I have decided not to buy the car. I would love to have a either a:
    -88-91 civic hatch
    -88-91 CRX
    -92-95 civic hatch (preferably DX, but any would be great)
    -92-95 civic DX 2-door coupe

    A good clean body is very critical to me, and I am not really particular about the paint quality.

    I would like to have a 5-speed. Duh!

    I am located in Louisiana, and I just cannot seem to find any of the above cars. I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR WHAT SEEMS LIKE FOREVER, but still no luck at all. DAMMIT!

    Finding one without a motor would be okay.
    Finding one with a blowed up motor would be okay.
    Finding one with a b-series swap already would be okay.
    Finding one with a b-series swap with a blowed b-series engine would be okay.
    I REALLY DON'T GIVE A SHIT, I JUST WANT ONE OF THE CARS LISTED ABOVE SO I CAN HAUL ASS!

    Thanks to all that replied! I'm sorry to sound like a "cry baby," but finding one of the cars listed above is just soooooooooo freakin difficult, or at least it is for me.

    If anyone in Louisiana has a car like those listed above that they want to get rid of, PLEEEEAAAAASSSSEEEEE let me know about it.
     
  10. ScottM

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    Could be worse. You could be trying to do a swap with an 86 CRX DX you already have and finding out that apparently there are no 86-89 integra 5 spds left on the planet. And that you're going to have to settle for replacing the engine with another carbed stock 76hp wonder.

    Oh wait, that's me. :)
     
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