89 CRX What to do?
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brian11to1
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What's Panda Motors?
There was a guy on Honda-Tech that went by the name "TurboPanda"... he was in Malaysia (I think) and was selling older Supra forged pistons and B16 rod combos. Supposedly they work fine in D16 blocks and can handle quite a bit of abuse. They were something like $400 a set, so it was much cheaper than buying aftermarket forged pistons to go into the D16s.
ya 7k is way more than i want to spend on the crx. Hondas cost so much more to build lol.
my escort, i paid 900 for my motor.. 1.8 turbo mazda engine 180 hp 180ft/lbs
I dropped it in, no mount kit or anything, i colormatched and did 6 wires! lol and it worked.. stock escort ecu and harness. I dyno'd it and made 174 whp 176 ftlbs @ 8psi with the stock escort 1 7/8" exh, stock cat, resonator muffler everything. All i had was hardpipes and an fmic. Setup probably ran me around 3k+ (i replaced all gaskets, water pump, ect ect ect) just the swap was probably about 2k. Now I have a haltech and a turbo upgrade sitting in my room, basically I'll be seeing 400whp for about 4-5k the stock internals take ~500whp tuned.
SO i decided the honda will get what ever motor comes a long for a good price, and im gonna take my time. I'm not gonna set my goals high if at all. Thanks for all the help guys and maybe when i blow up my escort I'll get the rex to run 11s lol, but I really just want the crx to able to take me to work and back as of now. again thanks guys, I don't want you to seem like you wasted your time.. i learned a lot! hondas still rock
my escort, i paid 900 for my motor.. 1.8 turbo mazda engine 180 hp 180ft/lbs
I dropped it in, no mount kit or anything, i colormatched and did 6 wires! lol and it worked.. stock escort ecu and harness. I dyno'd it and made 174 whp 176 ftlbs @ 8psi with the stock escort 1 7/8" exh, stock cat, resonator muffler everything. All i had was hardpipes and an fmic. Setup probably ran me around 3k+ (i replaced all gaskets, water pump, ect ect ect) just the swap was probably about 2k. Now I have a haltech and a turbo upgrade sitting in my room, basically I'll be seeing 400whp for about 4-5k the stock internals take ~500whp tuned.
SO i decided the honda will get what ever motor comes a long for a good price, and im gonna take my time. I'm not gonna set my goals high if at all. Thanks for all the help guys and maybe when i blow up my escort I'll get the rex to run 11s lol, but I really just want the crx to able to take me to work and back as of now. again thanks guys, I don't want you to seem like you wasted your time.. i learned a lot! hondas still rock
Well, $7k would be all new parts, machine shop work and a bunch of other "premium" items.... and if you want to go all motor. You could easily pull 12s with a much cheaper junkyard turbo setup on all stock internal engine with proper turbo sizing and tuning.
brian11to1
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I loves me sum N/A
Well, N/A has a better power curve for road course racing, and drag is better suited for turbo cars- especially large turbos. I prefer N/A, but that's me. All you highway racers and drag guys out there might like the turbo setups better.
brian11to1
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You shoulda done that a long time ago.
Originally posted by Calesta@Nov 5 2004, 05:14 PM
Well, N/A has a better power curve for road course racing, and drag is better suited for turbo cars- especially large turbos. I prefer N/A, but that's me. All you highway racers and drag guys out there might like the turbo setups better.
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honda_luvr_2000
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alright, yes i'm a newbie, but i have to mention it. I heard u wanted to stay w/ 87 octane. good man. little do most people know, the lower the octane rating the more power u get from the fuel itself. for 87 octane, i don't think i'd go over 10:1 MAYBE 10.3:1. but that's gonna be pushing it. u'r gonna have to do most of u'r mods on the outside of the engine, but u could still easily get the 170 whp u want out of a solid b-series.
brian11to1
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Who are you?
honda_luvr_2000
Junior Member
It's tru the lower the octane rating of a fuel the easier the fuel will burn. y do u think they have 105 octane gas? because the cars that NEED it run outrageous compressions or r wildly boosted, and when u compress air that much it gets damn hot. if they used 87 octane they'd be blowing up motors instantly. just look at turbo kits for that matter. y do u have an intercooler? u'r compressing air w/ the turbo, then it's run thru an intercooler to cool it down. y cool it? because when the turbo compressed it, it got heated up and not from the fact that exhaust gasses were passing thru the other half of the turbo. so back to the octane rating, the higher the octane rating, the harder it is to light off the gas. so if u r running like 9:1 compression on an NA engine, use 87 octane and it will be more powerful in that motor than 93 octane. basicly the octane rating has to do w/ the amount of crap they put in the gas to keep it from burning versus the amount of octane in the gas. maybe this will help... Webster's dictionary:
Octane number n. A number measuring the the antiknock rating of gasoline, based on the percentage of a particular form of octane contained in a sample of gasoline.
Octane n. 1. Any of several hydrocarbon compounds occuring in petroleum. 2. Octane number.
knocking occurs when the gasoline detonates or preignites.
detonation occurs when it is compressed and super heated but still after the spark plug lights. it is a second flame front that comes across the combustion chamber and meets the spark-ignited flame and causes a very unstable explosion in the combustion chamber.
pre-ignition is just wut its name says, the compressed air/fuel ignites before the spark plug is ignited. this is caused again by the air/fuel being superheated, mostly from over compression, or sharp points or pieces that should not be in the combustion chamber glowing red hot.
go ask a seasoned mechanic, or a knowledgeable gas station attendant about octane numbers.
if anyone can actually prove me wrong, please do. if not, then don't try to tell me i don't know wut i'm talkin about just cuz i'm a noob