Discussion in 'Members' Lounge' started by AHHVTEC, Dec 13, 2010.
good pics and read but
a sea of lead, a sky of slate: Abandoned on Everest
thats fucking crazy.
no chopper can fly that high.
most choppers are good for 8000 feet.
dual rotor army style huge transaports can go to 18k.
still, you're no where near 27k at the summit. That's why base camp is where it is... that's as high as they can get you. The air is simply to thin to float the chopper any higher.
I see nothing but a background photo. Can't even highlight anything. What's going on here ?
your computer sucks? works fine for me in FF
its a plot....
they're coming to get you.
I was joking.
I just walked into a -25C storage freezer in my t-shirt to check for ice buildup on the coils....no big deal
YouTube - The Dark Side of Everest, part 1
YouTube - The Dark Side of Everest, part 2
YouTube - The Dark Side of Everest, part 3
YouTube - The Dark Side of Everest, part 4
YouTube - The Dark Side of Everest, part 5
Just watched these last night. That chick is pretty cold hearted man..
There's no choice. If you can't bring yourself off of it, you die on it. If you don't know that going into it, you shouldn't be climbing it.
No one can be expected to bring down a 180+ dead weight of anyone up there.
breathing at 12000 feet is hard.
at 28000? forget about it.
Still doesn't change the fact she's a cold hearted beotch... I bet she's stellar in the sack though.
i guess i'm cold hearted too. you can't pull your weight? you die. i can't pull my weight? I shouldn't have come, and now i die because of it.
cold hearted? no.
put it like this. on your street theres a huge semi, full load, the brakes are locked up, its stuck. not moving.
they tell you to get into your little single cam stock motored honda, hook to a chain, and pull the semi 20 miles in the condition that its in.
what do you think is going to happen? your honda is going to die. you'll either burn your tires off, burn the clutch out, or blow the motor, maybe even junk the trans. either way, your honda would make it.
no point in trying to save them, because that would mean that instead of just him dying, you both die. its lose-lose.
There was a helo that landed at the summit back in '05. Not just a fly by either, it landed for two minutes lifted off and made it away.
Helicopter on Everest makes History | GreatOutdoors.com
From what I have read here and elsewhere once you hit that threshold you are dying anyway. Regardless of how strong you are. You are slowly dying. How in the hell can you help anyone whose body has already quit?
the 'death zone' has a 48 hour window give or take. you eventually suffocate as you can't breathe fast enough to parse enough oxygen.
it's 8 hours up and 8 back. on that 16 hours of mostly in the death zone from camp4, carrying someone down is simply not a realistic move. Hell, even back at camp 4, while out of the death zone, while not negative, it's barely positive air flow and you still have no energy.
This thread has me watching Everest: Beyond the Limit on netflix. Both season 1 and 2 are on instant streaming
All this kind of makes me want to do it though.
worst analogy ever..
Edmund Hillary the first guy to do it seems to believe more could have been done.
Just finished watching the first season of the show I mentioned above. The guy that mentioned in the blog post, David Sharp was found by the expedition featured on the Discovery Channel show. He was dying in the Death Zone. There are multiple sections where you have to go single file with your foot at a 50 degree angle according to the climbers on the show so how would you get a 200 some odd pound man off of Everest? The first guy to notice him mentioned that he was about the same size as the biggest guy on their expedition and he weighed in at 240.
The way I look at it is, these guys that actually climb Everest know what they are talking about. What I mean by that is the guys on the ground at that moment. There are a thousand diffrent variables that go into making the decision. And the guy Max on the show tried to give him his O2 but he was to far gone.
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