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Advice on B16 cams

Discussion in 'Engine Building' started by 91EDMVTECCRX, Aug 4, 2006.

  1. 91EDMVTECCRX

    91EDMVTECCRX Junior Member

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    I read the B-Series cam guide, and though it was very informative, it wasn't geared towards what I have in mind. I want to know what would be a good set of cams to put in my B16, as I plan on keeping it n/a, and I don't plan on upgrading the ecu to rev over 8200 rpm's, so I won't have to change out the springs/valves.

    Basically what I'm asking is could I just buy a set of adjustable cam gears and advance/retard the timing to acheive power gains, or should I throw in...say...some Type-R cams, or some other aftermarket brand? I'll be tuning the air/fuel via an Apex'i Neo.
     
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    How much of a power gain do you want? You don't really define "sufficient."

    Most companies' "Stage 1" offerings will do well without having to upgrade your springs and retainers- but almost all will cost you more than 500 shipped (new). Hotter cams generally won't give you much more of a power increase over the mild ones without a compression increase and/or port work. Even the mild cams will require adjustable cam gears to get the maximum benefit.

    If you want to stay under $500, you'll want to look at used cams. Your best bet would be to probably look for a set of used Integra Type-R cams (usually around $300), plus a good pair of adjustable gears. Stay away from the old AEM 3 bolt gears that had flangeless screws. Most other big name gears will work decently without much risk of slippage. Used ITR cams should give you a really good bang for the buck ratio on your stock internal (I assume) B16.
     
  3. 91EDMVTECCRX

    91EDMVTECCRX Junior Member

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    I'm not looking to gain over 10hp with cams and no head work. My B16 is stock internally. I was thinking a set of Civic or Integra Type-R cams and obtaining a set of adjustable cam gears (any advice?) to advance/retard the timing as necessary while tuning the air/fuel via an Apex'i Neo.

    What other possibilities am I facing, if I don't plan on doing headwork, and I don't plan on swapping/changing any of the internals?
     
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    If you want to use your stock valvetrain, then Type r cams are pretty good.
     
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    CTR cams is about the most aggressive cam you want to go without upgrading valvetrain. the problem isnt just the RPM, the lift matters too.
     
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    Yup. If you're looking for a stock internal cam upgrade, then the ITR or CTR cams are probably your best bet. I like the Skunk2 cam gears- they're what I had on my B block. They have 6 bolts holding everything together. There are other better choices though- look for the gears that have laser etched marks.
     
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    Thanks for the advice guys, I'll be sure to take heed here shortly...

    Maybe I'll post pictures afterwards?
     
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    isnt it better to go 1and1 i think itr exhaust and ctr intake cams? or th eother way around is what makes that kick?let me know if im wrong
     
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    After 2000 CTR and ITR cams are exaclty the same. Before that go with ctr cams.
     
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