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All motor build GSR or TypeR

Discussion in 'HYBRID -> EG-EK / DC' started by projectxspeed, May 20, 2004.

Which motor would you go with?

  1. Type R b18c5

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  2. GSR b1

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  1. projectxspeed

    projectxspeed Senior Member

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    My friend has a 94 integra ls. After hearing about my track times he was to swap his ls for something with more power. HE WILL NOT CONSIDER A TURBO, or AN LS/VTEC. So please don't mention them; that's why they were not on the poll. He has about a 6K budget, thoughts?
     
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    Well he could spend all his money on the type r swap...which has a really good tranny with it. Or get the gsr and possibly raise the compression and get some bolt-ons with a hondata or somethin.
     
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    brc80 Senior Member

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    I said gsr. Cheaper to buy = more money for his build.
     
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    pissedoffsol RETIRED

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    road course? JDM ITR without a doubt, running a different ecu than the p73 (will top out at 115)

    the lsd and gearing is key.
     
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    projectxspeed Senior Member

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    Sorry guys I did forget to mention the most important fact: goal. This is his sumertime daily driver; he also goes to the drag strip from time to time.
     
  6. phunky.buddha

    phunky.buddha Admin with a big stick Admin VIP

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    If he drags, you really really really should try and convince him to build and turbo his stock block. It'll be a lot more powerful (and faster) in the quarter than a straight ITR swap, and he'll spend less money too.

    If he wants to drag on a swap for $6000, tell him to get the ITR swap, then upgrade the cams.
     
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    I totally agree with calesta. get a jdm integra w/ lsd. you already got gearing, and descent compression without the big threat of detonation. decent ecu. now he should have around 700-1200 left depending on what deal he can find. and then upgrade your cams w/ a fpr. this would be a nice set up for a daily driver as well as the drag strip.
     
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    sorry misprint a jdm itr w/ lsd.
     
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    thanks for the great feedback guys
     
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    Well, I'd get a better tuning solution than an FPR... he can run Uberdata for free or buy into a Hondata S100 system. Getting an ITR engine tuned with good agressive aftermarket cams will really help, even with just dropping the cams/valvetrain as the only major upgrade.
     
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    do you have an idea on how much good cams would be? and also, i am going to do this swap with a friend so would changing out the cams be difficult for a first timer? thanks for the info. ps with new cams what do u think a 92 hb with itr would do in the 1/4?
     
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    $600-700 for a set of brand new Skunk2 or Crower cams is pretty typical. Add new valve springs and you're probably looking at about $1000 total. You can install cams on your own- it's really not that hard, especially if you're doing an engine swap by yourself already. I'd guess you could run mid 13s with a setup like that- but that's just a guess.
     
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    My friend is really stuck on the LSD of the TypeR. It looks like he is going to lean that way.
     
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    get a b20 with a vtec head, if built right you can have 200hp at wheel with little modification.
     
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    I'm not really a big fan of the ls/vtec, and I am even less of a fan of the crvtec, Especially since the b20 has thinner and thus weaker cylinder walls.
     
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    Wow the poll is at a dead tie at this point at 10 and 10. I will watch it til weds night, and after that the winner with be the plan for the near future.
     
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    Still tied, dang more votes are needed
     
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    the cylinder walls of a b20 are fine, they're not gonna crack.
     
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    if i had 6 thou id turbo the hell out of a gsr but thats me
     
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