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  1. reckedracing

    reckedracing TTIWWOP VIP

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    Also please read China's report on US human rights violations... It seems the US plays world police and issues a report EVERY year, yet some how, the US is never mentioned in that report.


    No concept lies more firmly embedded in our national character than the notion that the USA is "No. 1," "the greatest." Our broadcast media are, in essence, continuous advertisements for the brand name "America Is No. 1." Any office seeker saying otherwise would be committing political suicide. In fact, anyone saying otherwise will be labeled "un-American." We're an "empire," ain't we? Sure we are. An empire without a manufacturing base. An empire that must borrow $2 billion a day from its competitors in order to function. Yet the delusion is ineradicable. We're No. 1. Well...this is the country you really live in:

    The United States is 49th in the world in literacy (the New York Times, Dec. 12, 2004).

    The United States ranked 28th out of 40 countries in mathematical literacy (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).

    Twenty percent of Americans think the sun orbits the earth. Seventeen percent believe the earth revolves around the sun once a day (The Week, Jan. 7, 2005).
    perhaps voter rolls should be kept according to intelligence as compared to who went to jail for smoking pot or other petty crimes and who did not...

    "The International Adult Literacy Survey...found that Americans with less than nine years of education 'score worse than virtually all of the other countries'" (Jeremy Rifkin's superbly documented book The European Dream: How Europe's Vision of the Future Is Quietly Eclipsing the American Dream, p.78).

    Our workers are so ignorant and lack so many basic skills that American businesses spend $30 billion a year on remedial training (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004). No wonder they relocate elsewhere!

    "The European Union leads the U.S. in...the number of science and engineering graduates; public research and development (R&D) expenditures; and new capital raised" (The European Dream, p.70).

    "Europe surpassed the United States in the mid-1990s as the largest producer of scientific literature" (The European Dream, p.70).

    Nevertheless, Congress cut funds to the National Science Foundation. The agency will issue 1,000 fewer research grants this year (NYT, Dec. 21, 2004).

    Foreign applications to U.S. grad schools declined 28 percent last year. Foreign student enrollment on all levels fell for the first time in three decades, but increased greatly in Europe and China. Last year Chinese grad-school graduates in the U.S. dropped 56 percent, Indians 51 percent, South Koreans 28 percent (NYT, Dec. 21, 2004). We're not the place to be anymore.

    The World Health Organization "ranked the countries of the world in terms of overall health performance, and the U.S. [was]...37th." In the fairness of health care, we're 54th. "The irony is that the United States spends more per capita for health care than any other nation in the world" (The European Dream, pp.79-80). Pay more, get lots, lots less.

    "The U.S. and South Africa are the only two developed countries in the world that do not provide health care for all their citizens" (The European Dream, p.80). Excuse me, but since when is South Africa a "developed" country? Anyway, that's the company we're keeping.

    Lack of health insurance coverage causes 18,000 unnecessary American deaths a year. (That's six times the number of people killed on 9/11.) (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005.)

    "U.S. childhood poverty now ranks 22nd, or second to last, among the developed nations. Only Mexico scores lower" (The European Dream, p.81). Been to Mexico lately? Does it look "developed" to you? Yet it's the only "developed" country to score lower in childhood poverty.

    Twelve million American families--more than 10 percent of all U.S. households--"continue to struggle, and not always successfully, to feed themselves." Families that "had members who actually went hungry at some point last year" numbered 3.9 million (NYT, Nov. 22, 2004).

    The United States is 41st in the world in infant mortality. Cuba scores higher (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005).

    Women are 70 percent more likely to die in childbirth in America than in Europe (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005).

    The leading cause of death of pregnant women in this country is murder (CNN, Dec. 14, 2004).

    "Of the 20 most developed countries in the world, the U.S. was dead last in the growth rate of total compensation to its workforce in the 1980s.... In the 1990s, the U.S. average compensation growth rate grew only slightly, at an annual rate of about 0.1 percent" (The European Dream, p.39). Yet Americans work longer hours per year than any other industrialized country, and get less vacation time.

    "Sixty-one of the 140 biggest companies on the Global Fortune 500 rankings are European, while only 50 are U.S. companies" (The European Dream, p.66). "In a recent survey of the world's 50 best companies, conducted by Global Finance, all but one were European" (The European Dream, p.69).

    "Fourteen of the 20 largest commercial banks in the world today are European.... In the chemical industry, the European company BASF is the world's leader, and three of the top six players are European. In engineering and construction, three of the top five companies are European.... The two others are Japanese. Not a single American engineering and construction company is included among the world's top nine competitors. In food and consumer products, Nestlé and Unilever, two European giants, rank first and second, respectively, in the world. In the food and drugstore retail trade, two European companies...are first and second, and European companies make up five of the top ten. Only four U.S. companies are on the list" (The European Dream, p.68).

    The United States has lost 1.3 million jobs to China in the last decade (CNN, Jan. 12, 2005).

    U.S. employers eliminated 1 million jobs in 2004 (The Week, Jan. 14, 2005).

    Three million six hundred thousand Americans ran out of unemployment insurance last year; 1.8 million--one in five--unemployed workers are jobless for more than six months (NYT, Jan. 9, 2005).

    Japan, China, Taiwan, and South Korea hold 40 percent of our government debt. (That's why we talk nice to them.) "By helping keep mortgage rates from rising, China has come to play an enormous and little-noticed role in sustaining the American housing boom" (NYT, Dec. 4, 2004). Read that twice. We owe our housing boom to China, because they want us to keep buying all that stuff they manufacture.

    Sometime in the next 10 years Brazil will probably pass the U.S. as the world's largest agricultural producer. Brazil is now the world's largest exporter of chickens, orange juice, sugar, coffee, and tobacco. Last year, Brazil passed the U.S. as the world's largest beef producer. (Hear that, you poor deluded cowboys?) As a result, while we bear record trade deficits, Brazil boasts a $30 billion trade surplus (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).

    As of last June, the U.S. imported more food than it exported (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).

    Bush: 62,027,582 votes. Kerry: 59,026,003 votes. Number of eligible voters who didn't show up: 79,279,000 (NYT, Dec. 26, 2004). That's more than a third. Way more. If more than a third of Iraqis don't show for their election, no country in the world will think that election legitimate.

    Forty-three percent of Americans think torture is sometimes justified, according to a PEW Poll (Associated Press, Aug. 19, 2004).

    "Nearly 900,000 children were abused or neglected in 2002, the last year for which such data are available" (USA Today, Dec. 21, 2004).

    "The International Association of Chiefs of Police said that cuts by the [Bush] administration in federal aid to local police agencies have left the nation more vulnerable than ever" (USA Today, Nov. 17, 2004).

    No. 1? In most important categories we're not even in the Top 10 anymore. Not even close.

    The USA is "No. 1" in nothing but weaponry, consumer spending, debt, and delusion.
     
  2. Battle Pope

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    I agree on all counts, but honestly, why create more drama?
     
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    The population of people living in poverty has been on a steady rise. According to a report by The Sun on July, 6, 2004, from 1970 to 2000 (adjusted for inflation), the bottom 90 percent's average income stagnated while the top 10 percent experienced an average yearly income increase of nearly 90 percent. Upper-middle-and-upper-class families that constitute the top 10 percent of the income distribution are prospering while many among the remaining 90 percent struggle to maintain their standard of living. Worsening income disparities have formed two Americas. (Two Americas, The Baltimore Sun, July 6, 2004). According to a report of the Wall Street Journal on June 15, 2004, a study on the fall of 2003 by Arthur Kennickell of the Board of Governor of the Federal Reserve System showed that the nation's wealthiest 1 percent owned 53 percent of all the stocks held by families or individuals, and 64 percent of the bonds. They control more than a third of the nation's wealth.

    elections = money contests in the US
    money = power
     
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    hmm, i dunno, i really just want people to read china's report on the US...
     
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    **edit** I'm not getting in another one of these arguments.
     
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    BigJ I'm just about that action Boss. VIP

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    I wouldn't wanna live anywhere else though.
     
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    Me either. It may sound selfish but Im just worried about me reading and being able to do math along with graduating from college.
     
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    I appreciate the info, the best way to keep track of the government (and it is the populace's responsiblity to hold the government accountable) is through unrestricted information. That's something you won't get by watching the evening news.

    Local news: someone got killed last night (one way or the other) now lets talk about the weather! or even all the cool sports! or even how cute all those animals are at the humane society!

    World news: "uh what are those other guys reporting on... Let's go cover that too!"
     
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    Ya whats your point? We all know that slightly more than half of all Americans are morons :lol:
     
  12. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    :withstupid:

    Word, our generation is full of whiners who won't knuckle down and earn an education worth having or a job worth keeping. In shot we're spoiled beyond use. But that's fine, it makes climbing to the top all the easier for those of us who still posess the qualities of a real american (and by that I mean the qualities that made us the best at one time). I have a degree, work two jobs (one of which is serving my country in the Airforce), I can read German, I vote, read, and don't beat my or anyone elses kids. Sounds impressive doesn't it? Go back and read it agian, it's shit ur supposed to do people! Do you know that only 10% of 20-25 year olds enjoy going to work, in the generation before us it was more like 55%. America is lazy and spoiled, and the masses ruin the good image of those of us who actually represent what made America number one :-(

    :ranting2:
     
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    true true
     
  14. formby

    formby learning in progress

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    i Love this contry.....its not the best place...politically speaking...however i'm 22 i live on my own i have a GED and an AA deg and i make 36k a year....cant beat it...fuck china all i like from there is the americanized food....lol......i might move to canada.....ha JUST KIDDING......i love it here
     
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    formby learning in progress

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    i Love this contry.....its not the best place...politically speaking...however i'm 22 i live on my own i have a GED and an AA deg and i make 36k a year....cant beat it...fuck china all i like from there is the americanized food....lol......i might move to canada.....ha JUST KIDDING......i love it here
     
  16. MikeBergy

    MikeBergy Blah blah blah....

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    It's time we put bipartisan government to rest, and let the people who can think for themselves do the leading. It is a sad generation I have grown up in. Too much drugs, alcohol, and not enough people in the world taking on responible lifestyles, making a good name for themselves. It's lame how apathetic so many people are here in the states. I hope to someday enjoy my job, if I can ever get out of this prison known as the state university...
     
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    phunky.buddha Admin with a big stick Admin VIP

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    :p

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    "Twenty percent of Americans think the sun orbits the earth. Seventeen percent believe the earth revolves around the sun once a day (The Week, Jan. 7, 2005)."

    That's horseshit. That means that over 4000 people here on Hondaswap think that the sun revolves around the earth. Another about 3000 think the earth revolves around the sun once a day.

    Four Thousand people HERE.

    New York Times, and the Week are full of downright lies.

    -> Steve
     
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    Thats the easiest way to explain away things isn't it? I don't know if you are farmilliar with statistics or not, but if you were you would definitly understand that the hondaswap demographic is not even close to that of America. As contrary, given the nature of some people's posts, as it may sound, there is some requisite intelligence necessary to be able to go reach hondaswap.com and join up. Subsequently the populace of Hondawap is not an analogous population with which to compare these statistics.
    That said you should also be able to observe that as long as dumb American's have their Christianity, they don't feel that they need anything else. To see this in action, compare the number of religious channels you get on television to channels devoted to pure logic and science (none). Also look at the nations spending priorities. In california, while the corrections budget continues to climb, students are expected to more and more shoulder the cost of their education. More than anything it seems silly that American's are even upset with these numbers. I mean honestly, look at the behavior of most of your peers during the time when you were in school. School has become a social institution in the stead of an educational one. That isn't to say that I agree with the direction the country is going, in fact it pains me greatly that we are losing our focus on a well rounded education, which makes me scared to venture my career in the field of education. But change has to start somewhere.
     
  20. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    I'm not hopping into this argument but he's right. Even online IQ tests say that your score isn't accurate because it's being compared agianst other poeple who use the internet and not the nation at large. Infact, other then B, I can't think of anyone on here who thinks the sun revoles around the earth.... wait a second, maybe tonyD :p
     
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