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Originally posted by 92b16vx@Nov 22 2003, 03:19 PM
So do buddist go to hell? What about Amazonian tribes? Did the native Americans go to hell too?

in the bible it says each man will be held accountable for his own actions. it ways he will be held accountable for what he knows. it also says that it is impossible to look at creation and not KNOW that there must be a creator.
 
Originally posted by saturn_boy96@Nov 22 2003, 09:28 PM
so where did the universe come from? did man make it? no. did hitler suceed in destroying the jewish people? no. have the jews ever been completely destroyed? no. if you look at them in history, i bet they have had more wars declared on them than any other race in the world, ever. do you think that is just coincidence?

Did "god", no. Sorry man, but there is more to the universe than man, and to think that ALL this was made for us, or that we are alone is the most arrogant, self center, close minded, egotistical thing I have ever heard. As far as the Jews persecution is concerned, I wasn't stating that the Nazis killed them all, even if they had come close their leader would be on the chopping block too since he was a quarter Jew, and Austrian too boot.

everything that has happened to the jews since the time of christ was prophesied in the bible. even the fighting that is going on in the middle east was prophesied about.

It was also prophesied by Nostrodomus, so maybe you should be worshipping him.

in the bible it says each man will be held accountable for his own actions. it ways he will be held accountable for what he knows. it also says that it is impossible to look at creation and not KNOW that there must be a creator.

It also says "he that believeth in me, shall not parish, but have everlasting life." So, by those words either, buddist are going to hell, or god is a liar. But then again the bible was written by who, oh that's right MAN, so guess what, it's an interpetation of their beliefs, and shouldn't be taken as anything more than a interesting story, since it, like man that wrote it, is fallible.
 
Originally posted by 92b16vx+Nov 22 2003, 03:46 PM-->
Did "god", no. Sorry man, but there is more to the universe than man, and to think that ALL this was made for us, or that we are alone is the most arrogant, self center, close minded, egotistical thing I have ever heard. As far as the Jews persecution is concerned, I wasn't stating that the Nazis killed them all, even if they had come close their leader would be on the chopping block too since he was a quarter Jew, and Austrian too boot.
no, you asked if God saved the jews from the nazi's, as if he didn't. i was simply stating that they are still here. even tho they have been persecuted through out there existence.

is it really that hard to believe? i maen the world has been built to sustain life perfectly. everything we need to survive is provided for us.

Originally posted by 92b16vx@
everything that has happened to the jews since the time of christ was prophesied in the bible. even the fighting that is going on in the middle east was prophesied about.

It was also prophesied by Nostrodomus, so maybe you should be worshipping him.


you are trying to compare two entirely differnet kinds of predictions. Bliblical predictions are sometimes generalized, but more often extremely specific (e.g. Jesus was born of a virgin, i the city of bethlehem).

nostradamus was extremely generalized.(e.g.
In the City of God there will be a great thunder,
Two brothers torn apart by Chaos,
while the fortress endures,
the great leader will succumb,
The third big war will begin when the big city is burning") this supposedly prophecies the twin towers being destryoed, and Washington DC being attacked.

do you see the difference?

92b16vx

in the bible it says each man will be held accountable for his own actions. it ways he will be held accountable for what he knows. it also says that it is impossible to look at creation and not KNOW that there must be a creator.

It also says "he that believeth in me, shall not parish, but have everlasting life." So, by those words either, buddist are going to hell, or god is a liar. But then again the bible was written by who, oh that's right MAN, so guess what, it's an interpetation of their beliefs, and shouldn't be taken as anything more than a interesting story, since it, like man that wrote it, is fallible.


no, really it isn't like ever other story. the bible had more than 100 diffrent authors. they are all accounts of wht happened to each individual person. kind of like a person telling a court what happened. a lot of these people were jews, but some were not.

the bible has so many authors that you would think there would be more discrepencies in the descriptions of what happened in all of these stories. but because they are all so close, it is a fact that you can prove that Jesus Christ lived. you can prove that Jesus Christ died. and it can even be proven that he rose again.

but i know you will discredit that because every document ever written, from the beginning of time has been written by man.

[edit] Darwinian evolutionary theory was written by a man, does that mean that it is falliabe too?[/edit]
 
is it really that hard to believe? i maen the world has been built to sustain life perfectly. everything we need to survive is provided for us.

Give me a break, you really do think all this was made for man huh? Simply fuckin' amazing. So, by your rational, my turtle aquarium, which sustains my turtles life, is the perfect enviroment to continue their existance, so I guess that makes me their god huh? I mean I provide them with everything they need to survive, right?.

you are trying to compare two entirely differnet kinds of predictions. Bliblical predictions are sometimes generalized, but more often extremely specific (e.g. Jesus was born of a virgin, i the city of bethlehem).

No, I don't, especially since over the course of time the bible has been revised, editted, and added to, so if you really think you're reading the original, you're mistaken. Point is, predictions don't make something true, I could write out a thousand things that could happen too. And as far as the different authors, do you have any proof that it was written by different people and not one person long after the fact? No I didn't think so.

[edit] Darwinian evolutionary theory was written by a man, does that mean that it is falliabe too?[/edit]

Sure it is, but the difference is people aren't hating and killing other people because of it. People don't worship it, pay for it, die for it, commit genocide for it.

*EDIT* Sorry, I forgot to touch on this, Jesus born of a virgin, yea ok, sorry man, but ahh that's not going to happen, unless of course you are insinuating htat jesus was a test tube baby*/EDIT*
 
there is other life out there and they drive stuff like this
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ricers= other life
 
Originally posted by 92b16vx@Nov 22 2003, 04:45 PM
Give me a break, you really do think all this was made for man huh? Simply fuckin' amazing. So, by your rational, my turtle aquarium, which sustains my turtles life, is the perfect enviroment to continue their existance, so I guess that makes me their god huh? I mean I provide them with everything they need to survive, right?.

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the turtle god has spoken







hehehe :D
 
Originally posted by 92b16vx+Nov 22 2003, 04:45 PM-->
Give me a break, you really do think all this was made for man huh? Simply fuckin' amazing. So, by your rational, my turtle aquarium, which sustains my turtles life, is the perfect enviroment to continue their existance, so I guess that makes me their god huh? I mean I provide them with everything they need to survive, right?.
no, you are not a God, and never will be. but unlike your turtle, (and like God) you have a choice about its continued existence. you have many freedoms that the animals do not. you are free to choose. this is why God loves us more than all of his other creation combined. he gave us the ability to choose him or not.

Originally posted by 92b16vx@
[edit] Darwinian evolutionary theory was written by a man, does that mean that it is falliabe too?[/edit]

Sure it is, but the difference is people aren't hating and killing other people because of it. People don't worship it, pay for it, die for it, commit genocide for it.


i don't hate anyone. and i wont ever kill someone just because they don't agree with me. this country has close to 130 million "christians" if each one of them killed somebady who did not believe the same as they did how many people do you think would be left in America?

92b16vx

No, I don't, especially since over the course of time the bible has been revised, editted, and added to, so if you really think you're reading the original, you're mistaken. Point is, predictions don't make something true, I could write out a thousand things that could happen too. And as far as the different authors, do you have any proof that it was written by different people and not one person long after the fact? No I didn't think so.


yes i have proof. even proof that the Jews accept (although it is only about the Old Testament). but there is proof about the new testament to. the bible has not been revised or added to since it was compiled in 90 A.D. But will you accept it becasue it was written by man almost 2,000 years ago?

*EDIT* Sorry, I forgot to touch on this, Jesus born of a virgin, yea ok, sorry man, but ahh that's not going to happen, unless of course you are insinuating htat jesus was a test tube baby*/EDIT*


that's really something about God. he likes to do miracles. He still does them today.
 
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