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B16 200hp?

Discussion in 'General Tech and Maintenance' started by Justin66, Aug 31, 2008.

  1. Justin66

    Justin66 The Hondaswap Canadian

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    Ok to end a little bet i have with a friend who claims a 1.6 cant get 200+ crank HP without either turbo or stage 3 cams. I know i need to dyno and im not claiming anything yet so dont get me wrong. Skunk2 claims with a "custom header", sk2 exhaust, short ram and stage 1 cams you can get 190 HP from the stock 160-165.

    My setup will be (next year when i have bought everything):

    JDM B16a SiR2
    -chipped P30
    -custom header with 2.5" pipe and HKS muffler
    -short ram intake (going cold air soon)
    -adj FPR
    -sk2 intake manifold
    -stage 1 sk2 cams with adj cam gears

    With a mild tune.

    Do you think its possible to achieve 200 crank hp or more with this setup. I know that the tune matters alot and such but as a rough estimate? i will obviously have to find out next year but you guys im sure have seen many setups and figures. To be honest my goal is 200+ crank HP, and ill be happy. Any input would be appriciated, just dont flame, this is only an estimate. Just wanna know what im getting into. If anyone sees a problem or a better way or anything else id need (fuel or TB or whatever) to get this power?

    Thanks.
     
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    im gonna guess around 150-170 tops. it takes alot to get a all motor b16 to the 200hp mark and it takes even more to get the torque over 130. but this is whp and torque im talking
     
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    Sounds about like what I have (every bolt on) except I have hondata. But I did'nt have my cams in. Mine dynoed 155 whp.
     
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    Justin66 The Hondaswap Canadian

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    I dont want whp figures tho, and damn that was quick.

    Also adding 8.8 or 10mm spark wires to the setup ( i know it wont do much but every little bit helps).
     
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    at the crank i think you will be close
     
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    Justin66 The Hondaswap Canadian

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    I have read (on here) that a 200 WHP N/A B16A is hard without stage 3 cams, headwork, compression and mass bolt ons and tuning. Its not the WHP im after althought it would be nice, 200+ crank is good enough for me..... and my budget.
     
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    i think with a intake manifold and maybe a new throttle body you will be there just get a good tune
     
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    Justin66 The Hondaswap Canadian

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    K that makes sence, i just added on to the SK2 figure they gave. An intake mani could add 5-12 from what ive heard (depending on setup) on a high output 4cyl, im thinking that a b16a is a "high output" 4cyl, since its higher hp than any 1.6 non turbo ive seen.
     
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    200hp @ crank = about 170whp. That's easy all motor on a B16- just don't expect to get there without changing out your pistons or going with really aggressive cams and a really aggressive tune. Most B16s dyno about 140whp stock, so you're trying to gain 30whp without going inside. Good luck.
     
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    BoostedHatch get tha fuck out!

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  11. SONIC SHREK

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    I built a b16. 13.1 compression, eagle rods, buddy club springs, blox retainers, supertech valves and some custom crower cams. A RAGE header and type r intake manifold and throttle body. I dyno'd 197 hp at the wheels on race gas! So good luck!
     
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    Justin66 The Hondaswap Canadian

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    Well if a B18C5 can make almost 200hp, whats so different from what ill be adding, minus the compression i suppose.
     
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    a port and polish and a bigger stroke
     
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    Justin66 The Hondaswap Canadian

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    Damn my short stroke and damn my lack of funds.
     
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