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B16a

Discussion in 'HYBRID -> EG-EK / DC' started by stud4u2c17, Feb 26, 2003.

  1. stud4u2c17

    stud4u2c17 Senior Member

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    Okay general concept....

    ZC Swap is around 1200 for everything including installation
    B16a- bout 2000 for everything

    is 800 really worth 30 hp??

    I know they might be a little outragious priced for the ZC but i dont half ass on anything (installin my self)

    well thanks for your replys! :D
     
  2. phunky.buddha

    phunky.buddha Admin with a big stick Admin VIP

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    Is it worth it to YOU? That's the real question. This is going into an 88-91 Civic, right? If that $2000 is the full "drive out" price on a B16 swap, that's pretty good.
     
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    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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  4. sportlinecrx

    sportlinecrx Banned

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    here are some facts to consider:

    PROS:
    1) The ZC engine weighs about 75lbs less than a B16, which means the actual performance gained based on power/weight ratio is greater than what the horsepower numbers alone dictate.

    2) i have read that alot of ZCs put out more horsepower than they were rated at by the factory. there is a website that mentions this. i'll try to find it for u.

    3) price

    CONS:
    1) if you live in cali, all JDM engines are illegal (will be an instant fail at smog check time). and the only smog legal B16 is the B16A2 out of a 99-2000 civic si...and it has to be outfitted with california smog equipment.

    2) the ZC uses parts from about 5 different honda engines, making it confusing when u want to add on to it.

    3) there is so much more aftermarket support for B16's. in fact, B16's might have the record for aftermarket products available.
     
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    sportlinecrx Banned

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    check out this ZC page. its got tons of great info although it wasnt the one i was looking for. look at the parts chart (lower on page) and u can see how many different engines you'll need parts from when you have to replace something.

    http://www.88-crx.com/ZC_Page/ZC%20Swap.htm#ZC Specs
     
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    There's one ultimate thing which makes a B16a far superior to a ZC, in a word (or acronym!) VTEC.
     
  7. xj0hnx

    xj0hnx I wanna be sedated VIP

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    Well,you could think about this,When people are buying bolt ons such as I/H/E and easily spending $1000+ for gains that might equate to around 8-25hp,sounds like 30-40 actual horsepower for $800 sounds better and better.
     
  8. MaaseyRacer

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    Correction: JDM engines are legal in California, they just need to have a USDM counterpart and all the smog equpiment, that the USDM counter part had. The ZC is illegal, because there was not a usdm ZC. And the USDM counterparts were in the B16 the B16A3 (Del Sol VTEC) and the B16A2 (99-00si).
     
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    Some of the old tegs have USDM ZC's in them.. right?
     
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    xj0hnx I wanna be sedated VIP

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    Yes,but I think they were still stamped as D series.
     
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    A ZC is a d-series engine. :)
     
  12. xj0hnx

    xj0hnx I wanna be sedated VIP

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    I know but over here we have the same motors actually stamped with ZC is all I'm saying.
     
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    Ah. Okay. I dont know shit about them. I just knew they were considered a d-series motor.
     
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