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b16a2 --> 95 dx civic

Discussion in 'HYBRID -> EG-EK / DC' started by HoosierDaddy, Jun 23, 2008.

  1. HoosierDaddy

    HoosierDaddy New Member

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    Just wondering because I am getting alot of different answers and want to for FACT from someone who has done it ! !

    Will the B16A2 bolt up to my DX SOHC manual transmission ? Just need a new clutch maybe. ?
    If I get the computer with the motor, can I just swap computers also ? OR will I need to rewire the harness ?
    Motor mounts ?
    Header ?

    I would think the engines would have the same outer dimesions with mounts and stuff, but I m being told different. . . maybe just trying to be sold something I dont need ? Anyone know for sure ?
     
  2. BrutalB83

    BrutalB83 Brutal Moderator Moderator VIP

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    I don't know where you're getting your information, but you need to look elsewhere from now on...

    No, a B16 will NOT bolt up to your stock DX transmission. You need a B-series transmission for a B-series engine. Why would you want to use a stock DX tranny on a B16 anyway? The gear ratios suck for acceleration purposes...

    You can only plug in the computer if it's programmed for the same OBD setup that the chassis uses. If you're talking about the B16A2 from the 99-00 Si, then no, you can't just plug it into your 95 DX chassis. The computer is OBD2B; your car is OBD1.

    As for the mounts and header, both of them need to come from a B-series engine.
     
  3. kevins39564

    kevins39564 Eric Cartman 4 President!

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    I honestly dont know.. all the bseries engines and trani's interghange... I've been seeing people talking about d series heads on b series blocks.. Good question.. I'l start looking at as many pics of the 2 trani's you can find and compare them side by side to look at the bolt patern.. definatly search the forums for that on here.. probally been covered.. only way to know for sure is to try though if you have all b16 block and dseries trani on hand.. go for it see what happens, post it up

    -Kevin
     
  4. efhondakid

    efhondakid My name is Byron. VIP

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    That is the single most retarded thing Ive heard in a while.
     
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    BrutalB83 Brutal Moderator Moderator VIP

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    You fail.

    Seriously, if you don't know the answer, then simply don't post. Don't blabber on for a paragraph saying:

    "well I dun really know if it werkz or not lolz, I looked at sum pics and it looks like it might but I really dun know lolz, you shud just try it and tell us if it werkz or not, rofl!!!!111"

    That doesn't help anyone...
     
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    HoosierDaddy New Member

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    Sorry . . just saw the post below with the same swap . . I figured this was a common swap. I was told the B16a2 i was getting was OBD1 like mine ! So I figured the harness might match.

    But I didnt consider that honda would make totally different mounts for such similar motors. Just didnt want to have to deal with swaping a tranny / axles and all. I wanted to just unbolt this motor and throw another one in it. . . but I guess I need the whole swap !

    Thanks
     
  7. efhondakid

    efhondakid My name is Byron. VIP

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    Honestly its not a very hard swap, and really is a straight bolt-in that only requires minor wiring.
     
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    BrutalB83 Brutal Moderator Moderator VIP

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    Yep, you need the whole swap. It will bolt in (i.e. you don't have to cut and weld any mounts or anything like that) but you do need the entire swap...
     
  9. kevins39564

    kevins39564 Eric Cartman 4 President!

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    I already know the damn answer if you woulda payed attention.. All b series engines and trani's will bolt up... but I seriously doubt a d series trani will, EVEN THOUGH If you really do read all these forums, theres alot of mixed info out there.. come on now, seriously, you answer this then, WTF Is going on with people talkin bout minime motors b16/b18 with a dseries head...?? That shit threw me for a loop cause theres so much mixed info out there.. wich is WHAT THE GUY WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE 1st place.. for christs sakes..
    Mayyybbeee I left a post cause I'd like some closure on that babble goin round thats saying its possible.. so shit help me out on that to.. All might gods of the honda motor.. ROFL
     
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    HoosierDaddy New Member

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    Ok ladies. . . what do you think would be the most fun / easiest engine only swap for my POS stock dx civic with 280,000 miles ? Dont want to re-invent the wheel, but want something fun.

    If I had to do all that trouble with wiring and transmission . . . I think I would go with a B18C ?!? Wouldnt you ?
     
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    kevins39564 Eric Cartman 4 President!

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    If you have the money, definatly!! Theres JDM Salvage sites all over the place selling complete swaps ecu harness engine trani the works..
     
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    efhondakid My name is Byron. VIP

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    A mini-me is a SOHC (D-series) non-vtec block mated to a SOHC vtec head. You cant swap parts between families, but within them is where some very nice pieces come from. (ie Mini-me, LSVtec, CRVtec)
     
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    I haven't seen anyone at all talking about D-series heads on B-series blocks. That's not what a "Mini Me" is. A "Mini Me" is when you take a VTEC D-series head and put it on a non-VTEC D-series block, usually a 1.5-liter block. It has nothing at all to do with anything B-series related. Why the hell would you want to put a D head on a B block? That's retarded. It's not possible, first of all, and even it was, it would be a major downgrade (going from dual cams to a single cam).

    And I flat out answered the transmission question. You cannot bolt a B-series engine to a D-series gearbox. It doesn't work. Period. There doesn't need to be any further discussion on it...
     
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    BrutalB83 Brutal Moderator Moderator VIP

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    And no, the guy did NOT mention anything about a Mini Me or a D-series head on a B-series block. His question was whether or not you can bolt a B16 to a D-series transmission. You're the one the needs to read more carefully...
     
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    :werd:

    I will agree with you on this point. The B18C is a great engine swap for any 88-00 Civic chassis...
     
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    kevins39564 Eric Cartman 4 President!

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    he was talking about the cross communications between people sayin you can and people saying you cant.. Dude, I been up all fuckin night hookin up 3 tens and 2 12's with 3 amps in my teg.. I dont need the down talking shit.. when I'm not out fixing someones car i'm in here trying to give any help I cn and this caught my attention cause I have a CRX Coming and need more info on the D series wich I'm totally pulling out anyways.. I have an LS Block in my garage from my last TEG, I already have 2 builds planned.. ones pretty much paid for as soon as this crx gets here and I sell my teg.. blahh, I'm not fuckin stupid I've been building motors for damn near 15 years.. If I ever comment with (Thats a good question) It generally means I'd like to know to so someone fucking help this guy out, not h come fuck with me because you think your a ref in a football game calling me out on technicalities.. grow up man..
     
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    efhondakid My name is Byron. VIP

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    ^ Or any Civic/Integra that wasnt equipped with one from the factory.;)
     
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    kevins39564 Eric Cartman 4 President!

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    >A20A3 Honda Accord 1988-1989
    >B16 Acura Integra XSi/RSi (JDM) 1990-1991
    >B16 Acura Integra XSi/RSi 1992-1993
    >B16A Honda Civic SiR (JDM) 1989-1991
    >B16A Honda Civic (EDM) 1992-1995
    >B16A Honda Civic VTi 1996-2000
    >B16A Honda Del Sol/CRX SiR 1992-1996
    >B16A Honda Civic SiR (JDM-Hatch) 1989-1992
    >B16A1 Honda CRX 1.6i/VTi (EDM) 1989-1992
    >B16A1 Honda CRX SiR 1990-1991
    >B16A1 Honda Civic SiR (JDM) 1990-1991
    >B16A2 Honda Civic Si 1999-2000
    >B16A2 Honda Civic SiRII (JDM) 1992-1995
    >B16A2 Honda Del Sol (JDM) 1993-1995
    >B16A3 Honda Del Sol 1992-1995
    >B16B Honda Civic Type R (JDM) 1998-2001
    >B17A1 Acura Integra GSR 1992-1993
    >B18A1 Acura Integra GS 1990-1991
    >B18A1 Acura Integra GS 1992-1993
    >B18B1 Acura Integra GS/LS/RS 1994-1995
    >B18B1 Acura Integra GS/LS/RS 1996-2000
    >B18C Acura Integra SiR (JDM) 1995-1997
    >B18C1 Acura Integra GSR 1994-2000
    >B18C5 Acura Integra Type R 1998-2001
    >B18C5 Honda Integra Type R 1997-2001
    >B20A3 Honda Prelude 2.0 S 1990-1991
    >B20A5 Honda Prelude 2.0 Si 1990-1991
    >B20A5 Honda Prelude Si 1988-1989
    >B20A5 Honda Prelude Si 1988-1989
    >B20B Honda CRV 1997-1998
    >B20Z Honda CRV 1998-2001
    >B21A1 Honda Prelude Si 1990-1991
    >C30A Acura NSX 2002+
    >C32B Acura NSX 2002+
    >D15A Honda Civic DX 1988-1991
    >D15A1 Honda CRX DX 1988-1991
    >D15A2 Honda CRX HF (Carbed) 1984-1987
    >D15B2 Honda Civic DX/LX 1988-1991
    >D15B6 Honda Civic HF/CRX HF 1988-1989
    >D15B6 Honda Civic HF/CRX HF 1990-1991
    >D15B7 Honda Civic DX/LX 1992-1995
    >D15B8 Honda Civic CX 1992-1995
    >D15Z Honda Civic HF 1996-2000
    >D15Z1 Honda Civic VX 1992-1995
    >D16A1 Acura Integra 1986-1987
    >D16A3 Acura Integra 1988-1989
    >D16A3 Acura Integra 1988-1989
    >D16A6 Honda Civic Si/CRX Si 1988-1991
    >D16A6 Honda Civic EX 1990-1991
    >D16A8/9 Acura Integra 88-91 1988-1991
    >D16Y5 Honda Civic HX 1996-2000
    >D16Y7 Honda Civic DX/LX/CX 1996-2000
    >D16Y8 Honda Civic EX 1996-2000
    >D16Z6 Honda Civic EX/Si /Del Sol Si 1992-1995
    >D17A1 Honda Civic DX/LX 2001+
    >D17A2 Honda Civic EX 2001+
    >EW4 Honda CRX Si 1985-1987
    >EW4 Honda Civic Si 1986-1987
    >F20A Honda Accord 2.0Si (JDM) 1990-1993
    >F20C Honda S2000 2000+
    >F22 Honda Prelude Si 1992-1996
    >F22A1 Honda Accord 1990-1993
    >F22A1 Honda Prelude S 1992-1996
    >F22A4 Honda Accord 1990-1991
    >F22A6 Honda Accord 1991-1993
    >F22B1 Honda Accord EX 1994-1997
    >F22B2 Honda Accord DX/LX 1994-1997
    >H22 Honda Accord SiR 1994-1997
    >H22 Honda Prelude VTEC 1992-1996
    >H22A Honda Prelude SiR (JDM) 1997-2001
    >H22A Honda Prelude 1999-2001
    >H22A Honda Prelude Type S (JDM) 1997-2001
    >H22A1 Honda Prelude 1997-1998
    >H22A1 Honda Prelude VTEC 1994-1996
    >H23 Honda Prelude Type S (JDM) 1993-1995
    >H23A1 Honda Prelude SE/Si 1992-1996
    >K20A Acura RSX 2001+
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    >K20A Acura Integra IS (JDM) 2002+
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    >K24 Honda CRV 2002+
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    kevins39564 Eric Cartman 4 President!

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    OBD ECU help

    If you dont know what ECU your looking at .. this will help

    ECU Identification
     
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    kevins39564 Eric Cartman 4 President!

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    Honda Weights

    More info everyone should have..

    Year-Make-Model-Trim-Tranny-Weight
    1985 Honda CRX Si MT 1883
    1985 Honda CRX DX MT 1819
    1985 Honda CRX HF MT 1713
    1986 Honda CRX Si MT 1953
    1986 Honda CRX DX MT 1819
    1986 Honda CRX HF MT 1713
    1987 Honda CRX Si MT 1978
    1987 Honda CRX DX MT 1865
    1987 Honda CRX HF MT 1713
    1988 Acura Integra LS Coupe MT 2355
    1988 Acura Integra LS Sedan MT 2396
    1988 Acura Integra RS Coupe MT 2313
    1988 Acura Integra RS Sedan MT 2390
    1988 Acura Integra SE Coupe MT 2355
    1988 Honda CRX Si MT 2017
    1988 Honda CRX DX MT 1922
    1988 Honda CRX HF MT 1819
    1988 Honda Prelude 4WS MT 2685
    1988 Honda Prelude S MT 2522
    1988 Honda Prelude Si MT 2665
    1988 Honda Accord DX CPE MT 2493
    1988 Honda Accord LXi CPE MT 2551
    1988 Honda Accord DX HB MT 2513
    1988 Honda Accord LXi HB MT 2564
    1988 Honda Civic DX SDN MT 2039
    1988 Honda Civic LX SDN MT 2138
    1988 Honda Accord LX Sedan MT 2482
    1988 Honda Accord DX Sedan MT 2579
    1988 Honda Accord LXi Sedan MT 2665
    1988 Honda Civic DX HB MT 1993
    1988 Honda Civic HB MT 1933
    1989 Acura Integra LS Coupe MT 2355
    1989 Acura Integra LS Sedan MT 2396
    1989 Acura Integra RS Coupe MT 2313
    1989 Acura Integra RS Sedan MT 2390
    1989 Honda CRX Si MT 2138
    1989 Honda CRX DX MT 2048
    1989 Honda CRX HF MT 1834
    1989 Honda Prelude 4WS MT 2741
    1989 Honda Prelude S MT 2571
    1989 Honda Prelude Si MT 2712
    1989 Honda Accord DX CPE MT 2493
    1989 Honda Accord LXi CPE MT 2646
    1989 Honda Accord DX HB MT 2513
    1989 Honda Accord LXi HB MT 2560
    1989 Honda Accord SE CPE MT 2710
    1989 Honda Accord SEi CPE MT 2718
    1989 Honda Civic DX SDN MT 2147
    1989 Honda Civic LX SDN MT 2211
    1989 Honda Accord LX Sedan MT 2500
    1989 Honda Accord DX Sedan MT 2595
    1989 Honda Accord LXi Sedan MT 2685
    1989 Honda Accord SEi Sedan MT 2718
    1989 Honda Civic Si HB MT 2161
    1989 Honda Civic HB MT 2013
    1989 Honda Civic DX HB MT 2088
    1990 Acura Integra GS Coupe MT 2628
    1990 Acura Integra LS Coupe MT 2590
    1990 Acura Integra RS Coupe MT 2544
    1990 Honda CRX Si MT 2174
    1990 Honda CRX DX MT 2103
    1990 Honda CRX HF MT 1967
    1990 Honda Prelude 2.0S MT 2566
    1990 Honda Prelude 2.0Si MT 2639
    1990 Honda Prelude 4WS MT 2690
    1990 Honda Prelude Si MT 2690
    1990 Honda Accord DX CPE MT 2738
    1990 Honda Accord EX CPE MT 2888
    1990 Honda Accord LX CPE MT 2822
    1990 Honda Civic DX SDN MT 2262
    1990 Honda Civic LX SDN MT 2322
    1990 Honda Civic EX SDN MT 2374
    1990 Honda Accord DX Sedan MT 2733
    1990 Honda Accord EX Sedan MT 2923
    1990 Honda Accord LX Sedan MT 2857
    1990 Honda Civic Si HB MT 2291
    1990 Honda Civic HB MT 2127
    1990 Honda Civic DX HB MT 2165
    1991 Acura Integra GS Coupe MT 2654
    1991 Acura Integra LS Coupe MT 2619
    1991 Acura Integra RS Coupe MT 2560
    1991 Acura NSX MT 3010
    1991 Honda CRX DX MT 2103
    1991 Honda CRX HF MT 1967
    1991 Honda CRX Si MT 2174
    1991 Honda Prelude 2.0Si MT 2639
    1991 Honda Prelude 4WS MT 2712
    1991 Honda Prelude Si MT 2690
    1991 Honda Accord DX CPE MT 2738
    1991 Honda Accord EX CPE MT 2888
    1991 Honda Accord LX CPE MT 2822
    1991 Honda Civic DX SDN MT 2262
    1991 Honda Civic LX SDN MT 2322
    1991 Honda Civic EX SDN MT 2374
    1991 Honda Accord DX Sedan MT 2773
    1991 Honda Accord EX Sedan MT 2923
    1991 Honda Accord LX Sedan MT 2857
    1991 Honda Accord SE Sedan AT 3053
    1991 Honda Civic DX HB MT 2165
    1991 Honda Civic Si HB MT 2291
    1991 Honda Civic HB MT 2127
    1992 Acura Integra GS Coupe MT 2643
    1992 Acura Integra GS-R Coupe MT 2643
    1992 Acura Integra LS Coupe MT 2623
    1992 Acura Integra RS Coupe MT 2557
    1992 Acura Integra GS-Sedan MT 2703
    1992 Acura Integra LS-Sedan MT 2643
    1992 Acura Integra RS Sedan MT 2608
    1992 Acura NSX MT 3010
    1992 Honda Civic DX HB MT 2178
    1992 Acura NSX AT 3098
    1992 Honda Civic CX HB MT 2094
    1992 Honda Civic DX HB AT 2275
    1992 Honda Civic Si HB MT 2326
    1992 Honda Civic VX HB MT 2094
    1992 Honda Civic DX CPE MT 2224
    1992 Honda Civic DX CPE AT 2317
    1992 Honda Civic EX CPE MT 2390
    1992 Honda Civic EX CPE AT 2445
    1992 Honda Prelude S MT 2809
    1992 Honda Prelude S AT 2862
    1992 Honda Prelude Si MT 2866
    1992 Honda Prelude Si AT 2921
    1992 Honda Prelude VTEC MT 2932
    1992 Honda Accord DX CPE MT 2738
    1992 Honda Accord DX CPE AT 2804
    1992 Honda Accord EX CPE MT 2888
    1992 Honda Accord EX CPE AT 2954
    1992 Honda Accord LX CPE MT 2822
    1992 Honda Accord LX CPE AT 2888
    1992 Acura Integra GS Coupe AT 2701
    1992 Acura Integra LS Coupe AT 2681
    1992 Acura Integra RS Coupe AT 2615
    1992 Acura Integra GS Sedan AT 2760
    1992 Acura Integra LS Sedan AT 2701
    1992 Acura Integra LS Sedan AT 2665
    1992 Honda Civic DX SDN MT 2275
    1992 Honda Civic DX SDN AT 2342
    1992 Honda Civic LX SDN MT 2319
    1992 Honda Civic LX SDN AT 2388
    1992 Honda Civic EX SDN MT 2480
    1992 Honda Civic EX SDN AT 2524
    1992 Honda Accord DX Sedan MT 2773
    1992 Honda Accord DX Sedan AT 2844
    1992 Honda Accord EX Sedan MT 2923
    1992 Honda Accord EX Sedan AT 2989
    1992 Honda Accord LX Sedan MT 2857
    1992 Honda Accord LX Sedan AT 2923
    1993 Acura Integra GS Coupe MT 2643
    1993 Acura Integra GS-R Coupe MT 2657
    1993 Acura Integra LS Coupe MT 2619
    1993 Acura Integra RS Coupe MT 2557
    1993 Acura Integra GS-Sedan MT 2703
    1993 Acura Integra LS-Sedan MT 2643
    1993 Acura Integra RS Sedan MT 2608
    1993 Acura NSX MT 3009
    1993 Honda Civic CX HB MT 2094
    1993 Honda del Sol S MT 2277
    1993 Honda del Sol S AT 2359
    1993 Honda del Sol Si MT 2396
    1993 Honda del Sol Si AT 2474
    1993 Honda Civic DX HB MT 2178
    1993 Honda Civic DX HB AT 2275
    1993 Honda Civic Si HB MT 2326
    1993 Honda Civic VX HB MT 2094
    1993 Honda Civic DX CPE MT 2224
    1993 Honda Civic DX CPE AT 2317
    1993 Honda Civic EX CPE MT 2390
    1993 Honda Civic EX CPE AT 2445
    1993 Honda Prelude S MT 2809
    1993 Honda Prelude S AT 2862
    1993 Honda Prelude Si MT 2866
    1993 Honda Prelude Si AT 2921
    1993 Honda Prelude VTEC MT 2932
    1993 Honda Accord DX CPE MT 2734
    1993 Honda Accord DX CPE AT 2800
    1993 Honda Accord EX CPE MT 2948
    1993 Honda Accord EX CPE AT 3014
    1993 Honda Accord LX CPE MT 2822
    1993 Honda Accord LX CPE AT 2888
    1993 Honda Accord SE CPE AT 3014
    1993 Acura Integra GS Coupe AT 2701
    1993 Acura Integra LS Coupe AT 2681
    1993 Acura Integra RS Coupe AT 2615
    1993 Acura Integra GS Sedan AT 2760
    1993 Acura Integra LS Sedan AT 2701
    1993 Acura Integra LS Sedan AT 2665
    1993 Honda Civic DX SDN MT 2275
    1993 Honda Civic DX SDN AT 2342
    1993 Honda Civic LX SDN MT 2319
    1993 Honda Civic LX SDN AT 2388
    1993 Honda Civic EX SDN MT 2520
    1993 Honda Civic EX SDN AT 2564
    1993 Honda Accord DX Sedan MT 2769
    1993 Honda Accord DX Sedan AT 2835
    1993 Honda Accord EX Sedan MT 2987
    1993 Honda Accord EX Sedan AT 3053
    1993 Honda Accord LX Sedan MT 2866
    1993 Honda Accord LX Sedan AT 2932
     
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