1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Back in the saddle.

Discussion in 'Members' Lounge' started by Loco Honkey, Sep 30, 2003.

  1. Loco Honkey

    Loco Honkey Banned

    Messages:
    3,646
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2003
    Well guys 'n gals, I'm back in the Honda scene. I'm picking up an '87 Integra and a 1G CRX HF in a few weeks.

    Since every homeboy and their mom has "plans," I'll share mine...

    Swap in the Integra rear end, front LCAs, front hubs, engine, tranny, axles, engine harness, car harness, ECU, fuel tank.
    9lb. or less flywheel
    Some hair chested clutch
    29mm torsion bars up front (for those that don't know, these are equivalent to about 500# rate springs).
    GC coilovers in the rear with 500# rates.
    Tokico Illuminas
    Bushings
    Sways
    16" flat black Rotas of undetermined model
    Wilwood 12.2" brake kit
    Maybe some tires.
    Autopower bolt in cage welded in.
    1st gen JDM Supra pistons/ B16 rods in the D16A1
    12- 15 PSI of boost from a Toyota CT26 turbo
    FMIC from a Mercury Cougar XR-7
    DSM BOV
    SDS EIC fuel management
    Super top secret balls out hardcore aerodynamic enhancements. Don't ask. When I'm ready to tell, I'll show. You're gonna shit your pants when I do, though. ;)
    Total gutation. I shall leave no interior part unremoved. It'll be the kinda stripping yo' mama wishes she could do.
    Flat black paint.

    Goals: Low 13's and 1G in the turns on the same tires and suspension settings. Oh, and on 92 octane.
     
  2. silver

    silver Senior Member

    Messages:
    708
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2002
    Location:
    St. Louis
    holy shit 1G, good luck stripping :D
     
  3. khrisb

    khrisb ******

    Messages:
    1,807
    Likes Received:
    4
    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2003
    That will be the most pieced together car ever. I gotta see some pics and time slips from that shit.
     
  4. TurboMirage

    TurboMirage YEEAAAHHH VIP

    Messages:
    24,582
    Likes Received:
    697
    Joined:
    May 20, 2003
    Location:
    Central, MA
    youve got some work ahead of you my friend!

    excellent choice on the 1G though.

    this was my first car i bought. 85 DX.
    [​IMG]
     
  5. GSRCRXsi

    GSRCRXsi Super Moderator Moderator VIP

    Messages:
    9,623
    Likes Received:
    345
    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2002
    Location:
    MD
    arent you at like 6000 ft elevation or something? 13's will be very hard to do at that elevation. unless your basing it on 13's at sea level.
     
  6. Loco Honkey

    Loco Honkey Banned

    Messages:
    3,646
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2003
    I'm at 3260. And turbos sorta take the elevation change out of the equation.

    *edit- Here's a concept photo:
    [​IMG]
     
  7. GSRCRXsi

    GSRCRXsi Super Moderator Moderator VIP

    Messages:
    9,623
    Likes Received:
    345
    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2002
    Location:
    MD
    oh i thought you were higher, best of luck :) . and OH MY GOD MY FUCKING EYES i hope you dont plan to do that to the poor rex. :thumbsdown:

    edit: might not be so bad without those hideous fenders and tails
     
  8. jamesA

    jamesA Well known pissed off telephone guy VIP

    Messages:
    16,129
    Likes Received:
    1,020
    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2003
    <_<

    that rex looks :ghey:

    Altezzas=crap

    But the primer looks cool :thumbsup:
     
  9. dveit

    dveit Well-Known Member VIP

    Messages:
    5,361
    Likes Received:
    79
    Joined:
    May 5, 2003
    Location:
    DMV
    You're going to de-rice it, right? :D
     
  10. hcivic.com

    hcivic.com Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,571
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2003
    Location:
    Calgary Alberta canada
    ya the tegra has a straight axel in the rear and shitty drums
     
  11. Loco Honkey

    Loco Honkey Banned

    Messages:
    3,646
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2003

    You're retarded. 1G Integras and '84- '87 Civics have solid rear axles. This doesn't make them handle bad. Kinda like how struts are supposed to make a car handle bad, right? Well guess what... Porsches, BMWs, Mercedes, and 240SXs all have struts! Handle bad what?

    As for the brakes, you missed the boat. 1G Integras have discs. Sad, but true. And the rear sway on a 1G Integra, which happens to be housed... *gasp* IN the axle... is larger than the CRX rear sway. Oh, and you gain about a half inch of track with the 'Teg rear axle.

    So yeah... the rear end of the 1G Integras suck big time. Yep. Fuck me for wanting to swap out the CRX rear axle for it.

    And another thing... why the fuck do people shit on rear drums? If you had even the slightest inkling of knowledge about how drums work, you'd understand that a dual servo drum, like what's in the back of 99% of all passenger cars, will actually produce MORE clamping power than a disc of the same size. Guess why. No, really... go ahead and guess why. I'll wait.
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    Are you done struggling to grasp this concept? OK, good. It's because the drum has about three times the friction surface as a disc and the mechanical action of the drum rotating past the shoe actually pulls the shoe against the drum, increasing the clamping force even more!! The only downside is that the drum doesn't breathe at all, so it fades quickly. In low speed applications where maximum stopping power is needed, they use drums, like on the front of every dump truck, semi, concrete truck, and box truck in existance. Some of the smaller ones have discs, but it's an option not often used.

    Are you ready for more revalations about rear drums? I hope you're sitting down because I'm sure this will come as a shock to you...

    Sitting?

    Good.

    In a passenger car (read: non- purpose built race car), at threshold braking, the rear brakes only do about 20% of the total braking due to... anyone... anyone... weight transfer. Amazingly but true, when you step on the brakes, the CG of the car shifts forward, putting more weight on the front brakes.

    Now, I know what you're thinking... "but why, oh great one, do they put rear discs on race cars and all the publically consumed sports cars?" Well, that's a simple answer, my physics- challenged friend... Race cars as in tube frame race cars, have their vertical CG below the axle line. When you hit the brakes in these cars, you get squat. Not nose dive, but squat. The weight actually transfers to the rear of the car. If you can't figure out how this happens, let me know and I'll draw you a picture. They also do it for easy of brake pad replacement. As for the publically consumed sports cars, it's just for looks. In the public eye, drums = econobox low performance, and discs = hot ass sports car.

    Back to the Integra rear end... The only reason I'm swapping rear ends is for the bigger rear sway. I couldn't give two shits about the brakes or the track. I've done a rear disc conversion on a '90 CRX DX and didn't notice a damn bit of difference in braking or pedal feel. You can take that to the bank because unlike you, hcivic.com, I'm speaking from experience. In the future, don't open your mouth unless you're positive you know what you're talking about. Misinformation on this board is worse than a CSi member posting about dubcaps.
     
  12. pissedoffsol

    pissedoffsol RETIRED

    Messages:
    49,693
    Likes Received:
    54
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2002
    Location:
    Retirement Home
    im almost postive he's kidding about the pic
     
  13. hcivic.com

    hcivic.com Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,571
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2003
    Location:
    Calgary Alberta canada
    dude the tagra rear axel sucks. I have driven and was a part of writting one off. Parts are near impossible to find and expensive as hell as for the brakes i was not saying dont due it but consider a rear disk swap. Yes it can be done before you try to say it cannot. My buddy was going do it. all that was need were some custom parts.
     
  14. Loco Honkey

    Loco Honkey Banned

    Messages:
    3,646
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2003



    I really don't know what the hell you just said, but if you think a larger rear swaybar sucks, then yeah, the Integra axle sucks compared to the Civic/ CRX rear axle



    Really? Gee, that's funny... It took me about 20 minutes to compile this list a few nights ago:




    Are you fucking kidding me? Your buddy is a bigger imbicile than you! Custom parts? WTF, did your parents hold you upside down as a kid? Dude, to do rear discs in ANY Honda, all you need to do is bolt on the hub and spindle of the same model with rear dics. As for doing a disc swap on an '84- '87 Civic/ CRX, all you need to do is bolt in the rear end from an '86- '89 Integra! What in the hell are you talking about custom parts? Fuckin' A, son...
     
  15. hcivic.com

    hcivic.com Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,571
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2003
    Location:
    Calgary Alberta canada
    the rear of an 89 tegra is drum not disk
     
  16. Loco Honkey

    Loco Honkey Banned

    Messages:
    3,646
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2003

    Taken from: http://www.g1teg.org/specs/



    You've been :owned: for the 3rd time in this thread. Give it up.
     
  17. hcivic.com

    hcivic.com Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,571
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2003
    Location:
    Calgary Alberta canada
    i have changed the rear brakes on on it is drum
    i have the manual for the 89 it is drum
    i had on in my driveway and looked at the rear drums
     
  18. Loco Honkey

    Loco Honkey Banned

    Messages:
    3,646
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2003
  19. hcivic.com

    hcivic.com Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,571
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2003
    Location:
    Calgary Alberta canada
    i will post the pages from the manual tommorow morning
    maybe the canadian model is diffrent?
    hell at that time they were still shipping from japan to canada?
    but no i was not high when i was working on that car
     
  20. Loco Honkey

    Loco Honkey Banned

    Messages:
    3,646
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2003
    Actually, NAPA lists a part number for drums as well as discs. I've never seen a 1G Integra with rear discs, though.
     
Verification:
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page