The girl and I were looking at cars this past weekend and we ended up at Lexus stealership. We got an older gentleman and we were ready for the BS game. Surprisingly, he was very courteous, not pushy and really tried to make things happen for us. We wanted to test him and lowball offered 22k for a 26.5k car and he willing took the time to take it in and make the offer to the higher ups. Of course it was rejected, but he tried. A couple other places we were at (Honda, Acura and Toyota), the sales persons wouldnt even consider asking their sales manager for anything if it was more than $1k off MSRP (all used or CPO cars). But he did say one huge lie though. According to him and his dealership, "Lexus only makes 200k cars for the global market annually. After that, they stop making cars for that year." I quickly google'd fu sales figures for the IS250 and RX330 for the 2006 calendar year. Just those two models alone accounted for 212,xxx of Lexus' sales for that year. Then we have the ES, GS, GX, SC, LS and LX. He quickly replied, "You can't trust everything you read on the internet." Other then that, he was actually a pretty cool guy. cliffnote: Sales person said Lexus made no more than 200,000 cars a year and no more after that. What's the most outrageous lie you have heard from a stealership sales person?