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Boost a d series or a b series

Discussion in 'Engine Building' started by mecanikfreak, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. mecanikfreak

    mecanikfreak New Member

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    Hey guys i was wondering if you could give me advices on wich one should i boost a d16 or a b18b.

    Thx
    (money doesnt mater)
     
  2. get_nick

    get_nick These snozzberries taste like snozzberries... VIP

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    i got some advice for ya, read the forums and do some research.

    there have been 2349230597283 posts about these engines already.
     
  3. LsvtecEg6

    LsvtecEg6 New Member

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    Jeeeeez. He just wants some advice man. I'm sure by reading the title of the topic you knew what it was about so why did you even bother saying anything. Anyways...Boost the B18b. In my opinion they're a better motor for it. Don't know why just never really been turned on by the single cams. I gotta buddy with a boosted Ls and it smokes. He's somewhere around 280whp. I forgot. But he runs 12's and he hasnt spent more then 2000 dollars. So do it.
     
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    Well I'm pretty sure my reason is implied by me saying I'm not too fond of a single cam. This is something I said in my response. My reason you want to know? Have experience with both motors and I like the stock tourque numbers better than most b series motors on the Ls. So, in the case of not going boost, Ls is far more superior to a d16. In my own honest opinion, that makes the motor itself superior for boost. But you are right. Both motors can make the same power on the same budget. Not gonna argue there. He wanted to know what motor we thought he should get, and I told him. Just cause I'm a noob doesnt mean I dont know anything. In some cases an opinion shouldn't even need to be backed up. I, as well as 90% of the honda population would take a B over a D anyday. The motors are night and day. Why not start off bigger? Ls is the way I would go man. Good luck with whatever you build man. Let us know how it turns out.
     
  5. LsvtecEg6

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    By the way Blanco. If an opinion with a reason is soooo important to you then please explain to me how you get the same power spending the same amount of money on a D. I do agree with you on this but I'd like to know how you think it's possible seeing as how you didn't post that. I'm not flaming or anything, I'm just saying , I see these Ls motors make good numbers and I've never dealt with a boosted D so I'm just curious.
     
  6. LsvtecEg6

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    Actually jusmping off the B series bandwagon, there are "better" motors. Try thinking of a K20 for a momment. When you can swap a stock motor in your car with bolt ons and hondata and a good tune and can run twelves? Well I dont see D or B series doing that. Lets not mention what happens to those things with internal work. I'm sorry for all of this confusion Blanco, I just think that build for build, D16 to Ls, this Ls will be superior. I also have never seen d16 do a 9 sec pass. Although that may not be what the guy is looking for, but it sure says someting about the motor. Now your D16 that you have puts down what 142-146whp? Let me ask you, How much did you spend to get to those numbers. Cause I spent a grand for my B16. Full swap. Had it running the day I bought it. Trust me I'm not even arguing your opinion dude. Just having a good ol' debate thats all. At the end I dont want any hate or anything. Which there shouldn't be. THat would be childish. I just don't like having my opinion question to the point where "i dont have a reason." I do have a reason. B series bandwagon man. You make a response to this all you want and argue some more. I will not say anymore abot this subject. To you at least cause that seems to get me in trouble. Actually, I ask you one more question. Let's just say he wants 230whp. I have no clue what he wants cause he hasnt posted back yet. Isn't it fair enough to say that an Ls will get him there a little easier than a d16 and yield higher tourque numbers? Tourque is what most of us honda people are looking for since it's hard to come by. Just a question. And as for the person who made this post. What are your goals? Budget? Is this your daily driver or a race car? Whats up with it?
     
  7. LsvtecEg6

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    Blanco let's just end it here ok. I apoligize for not backing up my reason. Because honestly, I dont know why I like b series motors better. I just do man. Not everything needs this fact behind it man. I just see everyone not liking the b series motor anymore. It's "out of date" now. H22's and K20's are the thing now. I want to keep the B series going. That's all. I honestly don't care what the guy does. Either way he goes I would love to see pics of his build and stuff. Just no more flamin' cause it's getting on my nerves.
     
  8. eg6sir

    eg6sir Supa Mod Moderator VIP

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    you're essays are getting on my nerves.. and why are you even bringing up k-series.. the OP asked about a d16 or b18b... either way, you can come out with similar numbers so to me its a toss-up..
     
  9. LsvtecEg6

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    I'm almost positive the k20 came up because Blanco said there is no such thing as a better motor. The motors in general are not a toss up. The builds might be. But most people will agree with me that the Ls is a better motor to boost. And just so you know when you say "you're essays are getting on my nerves" the correct grammer is "your." Is it safe to say that an N/A build between the two motors is clear? The Ls will make better numbers. Why not the same in the FI world. That's all I want to know.
     
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    Wow. This place is worse than honda-tech. On Honda-tech you can actually say something without getting jumped with dumb shit that doesn't even matter. This started because I said he should build the b18b without giving a reason. Who the fuck cares what my reason is. He wants to know what motor to build and I told him what I thought.
     
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    of course the LS can make more power, but is that what he's looking for.. he still hasnt answered so.. there is no reason to argue is there... what if he only wants 250-300 hp.. thats easily doable on a d16 and for cheaper than the LS.. but if he wants an 500+ hp monster of course the LS would be the better option..
    and i realize i typed it you're.. it was worded differently in my head(you're getting of my nerves with your essays), but it came out the way it did.. are you done teaching english class..
     
  12. GSRCIVICTN

    GSRCIVICTN Lost in a sea of rednecks

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    Simma down now. Not that big of a deal. Some people obviously love D-series. Let them. Besides, I don't think the guy who started this thread is even interested anymore.
     
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    Haha. No one jacked this thread. I told the kid what I thought was a better motor. Get the fuck over it. And I never said that d motors were junk. I dont know where you got that one from man. I do know that I personally, whether you do and regardless if it matters to the OP, prefer to build a b series. If you read the question, he's not asking for many technical points about each motor. He wants to know what we think. Not what we know. My advice to him is to build an Ls. I will not explain any further than that. I am sorry fo everything I said. So can we all grow and stop flaming on me now.
     
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    So...have you decided how you wanna build yet? Daily Driver? Weekend car? What? This stuff will help us. Like Blanco says..."help us help you."
     
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    Yo eg6sir...I love the quote you have from sunshine. That shit is funny as hell. He's worse than me. Haha.
     
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    I haven't heard back from the OP yet. I scared him. lol. ooops. Yea I kind of twisted things around. Yo...YOU CAN COME BACK!!!! It's safe now.
     
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    formby learning in progress

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    sory guys i was on vacation
    im looking for about 400whp
    im giving myself 1year to build my engine and im starting with 3000$

    Thx
     
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