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fuck yeah, im all game.
you tell me when you're ready and im there.
i say we run the next election.

god why didnt ron paul get the fucking nomination.
 
Here is the deal:

Get rid of welfare completely and everyone who makes money is going to have to stock up on guns, ammunition, and security systems including bars on all windows/doors. Because instead of going out and getting a job, these lazy fucks are going to start robbing people. They are looking for easy and free, and working for things isn't easy or free. Crime rates will go through the roof, and it won't be an uncommon thing to hear about people defending their homes and property with deadly force.

I'm all for just dumping the fuckers in the streets and letting them work or die of starvation, but they won't do either. They'll steal.
 
fuck yeah, im all game.
you tell me when you're ready and im there.
i say we run the next election.

god why didnt ron paul get the fucking nomination.
you need to be 35... so a couple more years yet for you.
 
you need to be 35... so a couple more years yet for you.

Doesn't mean he can't start his campaign now though! :)

Oh and time for the obligatory:

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You guys are right. I am starting to agree. If they did perhaps take out welfare our cheques would get less taxed by like 75%, lol.
 
it's not THAT much... probably closer to 20%

out of 20,000 in taxes paid, this is a rough break down:

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Department of Health and Human Services: $4819.25 (24.096%)
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Social Security Administration: $4510.67 (22.553%)
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Department of Defense--Military: $4020.06 (20.1%)
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Department of the Treasury: $3618.3 (18.091%)
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Others: $1200.13 (6.001%)
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Department of Agriculture: $613.58 (3.068%)
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Department of Veterans Affairs: $574.03 (2.87%)
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Supplementals not Offset by Spending Reductions: $507.89 (2.539%)
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Department of Transportation: $461.99 (2.31%)
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Office of Personnel Management: $442.21 (2.211%)
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Department of Education: $403.9 (2.019%)
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Department of Labor: $360.43 (1.802%)
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Other Defense Civil Programs: $338.39 (1.692%)
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Department of Housing and Urban Development: $306.02 (1.53%)
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Department of Homeland Security: $297.74 (1.489%)
 
B when I vote for you in 2038, you better not run the country like you ran your Sol modding project.
 
It's not the govt.'s job to take care of people, even the ones who truly need it.
here is the problem with our country. we have an identity crisis. there is no perfect form of government in the world. we want money and equality, but we are compassionate to those in need. thats why we are the big brother of the world.

How do they put 8 hours into community service when they have 6 kids and are a single mother?
have them start a daycare. pile them up into a big gymnasium. at least they wont be out getting their nails done and their hair did.

If their babies are starving to death, I'd bet they'd get to working.
wrong. they would drop them off in a mcdonalds trash can. then they would be at a government funded orphanage, still eating up your tax dollars.

I know single moms that have 3+ kids and work 40+ hours a , week. They do it, why can't everyone else?
because the money they get from work is more then they would get from collecting welfare.

the government would save a lot of money by offering free abortions to anybody under 25. if you are under 16 and prego, you are a lost cause. you are given a life raft and dropped into the ocean to fend for yourself. if you make it back to society, you get $1,000,000 in Arby's coupons.
 
WTF is this shit?
just saw a commercial for fucking safelink.
its a government program for free fucking cell phones and free minutes for people on welfare and food stamps.

are you fucking kidding me? why do people who cant afford cell phones get free ones from the government?

im going to quit my job and sign up for walfare, why the fuck am i working for my shit when i can be getting it for free?

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I have a question, because I do agree with B and klyph on alot of these things..

Do you think that along with all the benefits to be shut down, that unemployment benefits for people laid off should go with them?
 
no. unemployment is not welfare. it's insurnace that you as an employee and your former employer are required to PAY to have. it's a total different ball game than welfare.
 
WTF is this shit?
just saw a commercial for fucking safelink.
its a government program for free fucking cell phones and free minutes for people on welfare and food stamps.

are you fucking kidding me? why do people who cant afford cell phones get free ones from the government?

im going to quit my job and sign up for walfare, why the fuck am i working for my shit when i can be getting it for free?

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this post, and more importantly the last line, sums up the reason socialist societies are always doomed to fail

because eventually no one wants to work only for the benefit of everyone else
so eventually there are no more workers to take from... the hand outs get smaller and smaller... until there are no more hand outs, because there is no one left to strong arm the money from... they have all left the country, given up and decided to take the hand outs instead of working, or are part of the ruling class who no one would ever imply should have THEIR money taken to provide for the peasants
 
believe me when i say its sarcasm.
i would never sign up for welfare, i have far too much pride to be a beggar.

i will leave the country before i ask for handouts.
 
this post, and more importantly the last line, sums up the reason socialist societies are always doomed to fail

because eventually no one wants to work only for the benefit of everyone else
so eventually there are no more workers to take from... the hand outs get smaller and smaller... until there are no more hand outs, because there is no one left to strong arm the money from... they have all left the country, given up and decided to take the hand outs instead of working, or are part of the ruling class who no one would ever imply should have THEIR money taken to provide for the peasants

Umm if you want to look at the opposite end of the spectrum fascism doesn't work either. At that, the world is moving towards more and more socialistic ways. Look at the european model, etc. As time goes on, we need to evolve. Not saying, I agree with any sort of hand outs, but I Feel that the largest reason for opposition towards anything socialist is because of how shitty the rusky's handled it.
 
believe me when i say its sarcasm.
i would never sign up for welfare, i have far too much pride to be a beggar.

i will leave the country before i ask for handouts.

i knew it was
 
i agree with including community service to get welfare. isnt there a required work hours to get it? i mean with the current state of situations, even if you had a 40hr job that paid minimum wage and had only 1 kid, its pretty hard to get by. i work 32-40hrs and im barely making it and i have no kid.

i say make it so u had to have a full time job (32hrs+) and if you cant, add community service to make up for the hours. and if cant, then fuck them. and if they steal, cut off their hands. :D

but seriously, i work at a grocery store (high-end) and see some people buy our deli sandwiches ($7-8 each) and our premium cheeses ($10-16/lb) with food stamps. now, WTF!?!?!?!?!?! shouldnt it be for like eggs, cereal and apple juice??

and i dont want to sound like a fucking racist, but most of them are black. the latin people come in but they always have stacks of cash mostly because they are illegal and dont have an account so they are considered "walking atms," but i mean if someone who cant even speak english have money, why cant you? im sure they have families too.

anyway, just make health insurance affordable and ill be happy.
 
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