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Castro's out, and bush has plans?

Discussion in 'Members' Lounge' started by invisibledemon, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. invisibledemon

    invisibledemon Bored Moderator VIP

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    Fidel Castro resigns as Cuba's president - Yahoo! News




    looks like they may be looking for weapons of mass destruction in cuba soon.
     
  2. Taco15

    Taco15 I wear stretchy pants VIP

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    Ohh god not again. Does he get in everyones business?

    democracy huh? He hasnt managed to do it with Iraq yet , why the hell does he want go to cuba and start shit there?
     
  3. TommyTheCat

    TommyTheCat Gonzo Scientist

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    Start shit? We've been shitting on that country for the last century.
     
  4. E_SolSi

    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    the cubans have the perfect opportunity to design their own future now... we dont need to help with that... judging by the amount of cubans making make shift rafts to float their way out of castro country im willing to bet a lot of people there are not happy with the status quo and will likely (hopefully) stand up and demand change on their own without any outside "help" needed

    maybe this will end the stupid fucking embargo and ill be able to get a good cigar for a decent price without having to go to montreal to get it
     
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    So we're going to bomb them?
     
  6. 90_EF_Hatch

    90_EF_Hatch Señor Member

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    hmm America should chill. If the Cuban people start a revolution and its obvious they desire change and are getting slaughterd by a comunists army, then we can step in and assist.

    But only if they start it first, we shouldnt start shit for them because its leads to bad red for us.
     
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    i thought his brother has been running cuba since fidel got real sick last year?
     
  8. tunercrazed

    tunercrazed HS Official Hippie

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    well it was nice meeting you guys...we are all shortly fucked. once other countries get it in their mind we come after the weak and vulnerable, which is damn well what Bush is making it out to seem, something very serious will get stirred up here at home. Anyway you slice it this isn't going to end pleasantly.[​IMG]Time to start digging those shelters guys.
     
  9. totalburnout

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    Does it hurt to be so retarded?


    Also, how do you suppose that in an oppressed socialist society that the common person starts a revolution when they don't control military power? A derrr. The status quo isn't changing here just because power is changing hands. Its not as though its a democracy and this change means that the people actually have any more power, than in the past, to be agents of change. If the Cuban people were unhappy in the past and were unable to overthrow the government, they are going to be unhappy in the present and unable to overthrow the government... unless someone steps in.

    Think before you speak.

    Its one thing if you don't give a shit and say fuck 'em, they can deal with it themselves, but its another thing when you paint a pretty picture as though now they have any more opportunity to create change than in the past. Thats not the reality of the situation.

    If you are for change - then we or other nations help them.
    If you are against change - they sit there and the status quo isn't change, even if the people aren't happy.
     
  10. E_SolSi

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    if they stand up and demand change but need some assistance then im ok with helping them

    i am not ok with doing it for them

    if they wont make moves toward getting their own freedom then fuck em let them get what they get

    im also not ok with forcing a democracy on them... if they dont want it then what the fuck do i care... its their damn country
     
  11. totalburnout

    totalburnout Well-Known Member VIP

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    How do you suggest they stand up and demand change?


    You know in a society that doesn't support free speech...

    People like their cake and to eat it too.
     
  12. E_SolSi

    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    rebel against the government.... ya know kinda the same fucking way Castro made it into power

    it doesn't take free speech to stand up for what you believe in... it takes determination and belief in your cause

    some people don't have enough determination or belief in their cause to stand up and do anything about it
    and if they dont... then i say fuck em
     
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    holy shit.



    Everyone in this thread is retarded except.... I have problems typing this.... Totalburnout. Even E is being a little blind.
     
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    tunercrazed HS Official Hippie

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  16. 90_EF_Hatch

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    Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.
    The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.
    Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people under an efficient government. the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.
    Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?
    It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world; so far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it; for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements. I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is always the best policy. I repeat it, therefore, let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them.
    Taking care always to keep ourselves by suitable establishments on a respectable defensive posture, we may safely trust to temporary alliances for extraordinary emergencies.





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  17. jp_p5

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    How about the u.s. gov minding there own business for once and focus in on some of the problems we have here in our own country.
     
  18. 90_EF_Hatch

    90_EF_Hatch Señor Member

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    exactly. Thats what my post right before you was Stating. Except i was using a quote from an extremely well respected figure. Funny thing is if we woulda listend to him we wouldnt be in so much shit right now.


    "Dont Start no shit, wont Be no shit."
     
  19. totalburnout

    totalburnout Well-Known Member VIP

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    The United States has had an imperialist outlook on foreign policy since the inception of the United States. We've always played big brother and ran to the aide of other countries.
     
  20. BigJ

    BigJ I'm just about that action Boss. VIP

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    Word.


    People like big brother that helps out. People don't like big brother that looks the otherway, goes home, see's the news of his little brother getting his shit kicked all day long, then reads the paper about little brother getting mugged all up and down the courtyard, and finally gets on the internet to discuss honda's and hears about how his little brother is getting rocked on a daily basis.


    But the US strategically helps out certain countries. AKA, DARFUR.
     
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