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Chiquita Bananna funding terror? WTF?!

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  1. Sabz5150

    Sabz5150 FALCON PUNCH!!!

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    Am I the only one that caught wind of this? They're funneling money to death squads in Colombia to protect their fields.

    From the 'pedia:


    On March 14, 2007, Chiquita Brands was fined $25 million as part of a settlement with the United States Justice Department for having ties to Colombian paramilitary groups. According to court documents, between 1997 and 2004, high ranking corporate officers paid approximately $1.7 million to the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia, the AUC, in exchange for employee protection in Colombia's volatile banana harvesting zone. Similar payments were also made to the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia or FARC, as well as the National Liberation Army, or ELN. [1] All three of these groups are on the U.S. State Department's list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations.
    On March 19, 2007, Chiquita Brands admitted in federal court that the company paid Colombian terrorists to protect employees at its most profitable banana-growing operation. As part of a deal with prosecutors, the company pleaded guilty to one count of doing business with a terrorist organization. In exchange, the company will pay a $25-million fine and court documents will not reveal the identities of the several senior executives who approved the illegal protection payments.


    25 million dollars?! Is that all? Can we send at least one strike bomber to their headquarters? Jasus... we're losing lives fighting a war on terrorism and our own companies turn around and fund them? Unbelievable.

    I'm sure this will get many "Well lots of companies do this!".... THATS THE FUCKING PROBLEM!
     
  2. Turbo&Auto

    Turbo&Auto Nick Go FAST!!

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    I guess they were in a bad spot although it doesnt make it right. Interesting story to say the least :)
     
  3. Cashizslick

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    y0 whatever.


    If terrorists run your country, and the only way to get anywere is to pay em a lil bit, then do it.

    Thats bullshit that the US sued them. What were they supposed to do? Let the terrorists just waltz in and eat all the banana's? Its not like the government of the US offered to step in and get rid of the terrorists.

    Those government bastards probably ate bananas while writing up the law suit.

    total bullshit
     
  4. Sabz5150

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    So it's cool to fund terrorism?
     
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    i don't think its about the bananas
    i think its more along the lines of you pay a little bit and we don't kill your employees
     
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  6. Capt. Orygun

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    if that's true then they need to be more then fined. Thier assets in America need to be seized by the govt and their CEO (or rather whoever was knowingly involved) should be brought up on Murder 1

    NOTE: I re read it and it looks like they were just buying armed security
     
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    That is some of the most communistic crap i have ever heard.

    The government of the US has no right to sue or attack these people (Chiquita Banana)

    They pay their taxes and offer quality products in America. If America cares so much about funding of terrorism, then kill the terrorists.

    Its not like this company had any ALTERNATIVE besides giving kickbacks to the terrorists.
     
  8. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    they could hire a legit security firm, half of Las Vegas does

    and you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. America seizes the assets of drug dealers and other for profit outfits engaging in organized crime all the time. If this banana company is really paying death squads then they are a criminal organization. The fact that their product tastes yummy in Cheerios doesn't mean a damn thing.

    go educate yourself
     
  9. Turbo&Auto

    Turbo&Auto Nick Go FAST!!

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    Its funny that we're there to penalize them after they seek other help, where was the gov when they needed help???
     
  10. Cashizslick

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    Ok smart guy,

    How the fuck is the banana company gonna get a truckload of its own, outsourced security personnel into the country w/out starting a major conflict which will only result in the company's destruction?

    No way in hell terrorists who control the country will let foreign armed agents into their country w/out a fight.

    The banana comp is not in the business of fighting terrorists.
     
  11. Cashizslick

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    Thats the point - they had NO alternative other than paying off the mob (i.e. terrorists).

    SilverChild misses the point that, just because the US government calls somebody a terrorist, doesnt make them one.
     
  12. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    it's not our government. We could go in there and clean them out but then we'd just be accused of colonizing them and capitalizing on Banana money :rolleyes:
     
  13. Capt. Orygun

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    so they aren't terrorists, let me guess, the evil Dubbya called them that so he could limit your freedoms and impose his Hitler like agenda?

    United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    noted as terrorist organization by the US and Europe for civil rights abuse and torture

    I hope you guys have a "No Diving" sign at the edge of your gene pool...
     
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    So then how can we penalize them for what they do in another country??? Its a HUGE double standard.
     
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    Correct smart guy.

    Thats why the US Government has no fucking place suing this company. Chiquita had NO OTHER MEANS of providing for their OWN SURVIVAL as a company other than paying off the mob who controls the country they live in.

    ^ This whole suit is just to cover the US govt's ass if it ever got out that they allow "terrorist funding organizations" to opperate on US soil.

    - there's your education for the day.
     
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  16. Capt. Orygun

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    no, the standard is you can't fund terrorism in any country
     
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    Like I said before, tough situation for Chiquita. I dont think of them as a terrorist supporter after this but I dont condone funding terrorists either.
     
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    the situation down there is a problem but that doesn't absolve a corporate entity from giving millions of $ to a terrorist organization. You want to critique your country when it acts, and when it doesn't act.

    if this had been a headline saying America was ignoring their funding of terror you'd jump to the other side of this issue so fast it would make your head spin

    if nothing else understand this, Sabz and I actually agree on something, during these rare occurrences the chance for us actually being on the wrong side of this issue is negligible.

    go play FFVII
     
  19. Cashizslick

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    You fail to realize the basic CONSERVATIVE principle that defending your life is (and should be) the most important thing for you to do.

    I highly doubt the company wanted to pay to stay alive, but thats just how it worked out.
     
  20. Capt. Orygun

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    in doing that they perpetuate what you claim they see as a problem. The company could have asked for help citing what they had to do to remain safe, they didn't. And that's why their in trouble
     
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