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compression 300psi all around good for wet NOS?

Discussion in 'HYBRID -> EG-EK / DC' started by Teambypass, Dec 10, 2005.

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    Teambypass Senior Member

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    Read my signature for mods. Ok, guys, after spend so much money for NA mods and my best time is 14 flat. I believe I could easily hit high 13s, but I expected to be in the low 13s with my mods. So, I was thinking for my new mod, a wet kit, this should bring me to my goal, but does it worth? I know that when spray, you have to retard your timing, which in an all-motor, you will lose some HP but will gain some when spray. My guestion is, how much of HP would normally gain between all-motor and retard timing then spray? For example, my car pushing 190 at the wheel and by retarding the timing, suppose it drop to 150HP and I spray a 55 shot wet, how much of horsepower do I expect? if I will only jump from 190HP to 210HP by spraying, then I dont think its worth the investment. Would it save to spray 55 shoot in my high compression (300psi all around motor). I dont want my motor to blow, so reliability and safety is my priority in my decision to spray. Of course, I always have a reputable shop dyno tune my car wheather NA, NOS, or turbo charging. any comments. thanks...
     
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    have you tuned yet?
    190 seems low
    but with a good direct port wet kit you could go for a larger shot and have less of a need to retard the timing as much.
     
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    Yes, I had it dyno tuned twice by two differnt reputable shops in town; one by a dyno jet and the other one is a Mustang dyno meter(dont remember the names of the two dyno systems) but both produced different horsepower. What is the expective power gain from spraying a wet system, such as a 55 shot? i am staying with 55 shot for reliability and safety. Will it be safe to spray more? thanks
     
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    I run a NXL kit one of the direct port cheaters. Im running a 60 shot and it only puts 40 down to the wheels. but i also have a basic system with no heater purge valve and all that fun stuff you should have. spraying is great but its hard on your motor. I have to take my plugs out every week and check them for wear and tear. Me personally i wouldnt go with a dry system. those things are notorious for blowing head gaskets. A wet shot is the best way to go in my book.
     
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    certainly go wet because you have such high compression.. The extra fuel is good insurance. No idea how much HP you will lose retarding timing though, thats something to ask a dyno.

    I've personally seen a 50 shot put 30 HP to the wheels though, and from what I've seen online and other places, a 100 shot is never a 100 shot and a 75 isn't a 75... its always been less..

    Strap that bastard on and see for yourself! If you do it, come back and post numbers.
     
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    Hmmm...IF in the case that I could only gain 30 ish from a 55 shot, and that would put me in 220 rang, which I could probably hit low 13s. But 30 ponnies are not much comparing cost and benefit along with the risk of spraying. I think with minor adjustment and modify, Im confident that I should hit high to mid 13s this comming season after the snow clears up. Plus, my setup is realiable, I have no major problem at all and I like that. However, when I have the money or my moto blow, I will go turbo, whichever comes first. I really want to go turbo, but with the money invest in NA and the expense of switching to turbo, just too costly and nonesense. So, I decided to say NA and see if i can improve this coming season. I will definately go turbo if something's wrong with my motor that requires major repair. thanks for all the inputs guys.
     
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    with that setup you should be putting more then 200 to the ground. what tranny and clutch are you using? A GSR with those mods should be tearing up axles and tires like a mofo. depending on how much gas you want to use you could go turbo. you can turbo on a high comp motor but it takes alot of tuning to do it right. a high comp turbo motor is a thing to fear. im keeping my b16 right at 10.2 when i turbo. everyone says go low comp but i always try something other then the norm.
     
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