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Compression Ratio

Discussion in 'HYBRID -> BA-BB /CA-CD' started by KyleCrews, Mar 25, 2003.

  1. KyleCrews

    KyleCrews Senior Member

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    I was wondering if anyone can tell me what the stock compression ratio on a H23 prelude engine. Also what is the easiest way to bump of the compression ratio?
     
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    I meant to say bump up the compression ratio. Sorry....
     
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    an easy way? replace your head gasket, honda uses a 3 piece head gasket, if you remove a layer it will bump up compression.
     
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    How much would this raise my compression ratio and would it be safe to do still running stock internals? I don't want to blow this engine cuz i've only had it for about 4 months.
     
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    The other way is just to replace the pistons with higher compression ones. It would cost you a bit more than the head gasket but you would probably want to do that at some point and time anyway.

    Peace*
     
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    great advice 2fast... although you might want to add in that if you go with anything but OEM pistons you will have to sleeve your block.
     
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    will it hurt my engine if i raise the compression ration by removing a layer of the gasket while using stock internals. I'd hate to blow it up since i just go it.
     
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    I think the bottom end could handle it. However, I am not sure that you understand how hard it would be for you to replace that head gasket. It would take a long time, and a little money. Would it work, yes. Do you want to, no. The few horses that you would gain could be gained on a dyno, or with some bolt ons. Don't fool with a good thing, experiment on a shitty engine. Just my opinion.
     
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    I just planned on tdoing it which I convert my h23 to vtec next month and i figured i could do it then with no trouble. Thanx for the help though guys.
     
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    Shit, if you're converting to VTEC anyway, why not just install some Prelude Type S pistons? 11.1:1 compression y0!
     
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    How much would those cost me and where could i get them? Also i plan on putting a head from a '97 up prelude so i can supercharge it. Can my crank and rods hold that compression ratio and boost without blowing up?
     
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    No, I wouldn't run that compression if you're planning on boosting.

    What OBD classification is your car/chassis right now?
     
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    My car is an OBD1. Its a '94 prelude Si. Back in november i had to put another engine in it and i found a good deal an an h23 ordered from Japan. I want to put a head from a '97 up prelude so i can add a supercharger because i prefer super over turbo. I'm hoping the vtec head will swap on to my h23 block and i know i'll have to get the ECU for the '97 up and get a wiring harnes to go from OBD1 to OBD2 which is whats in the '97 up. I just dont know how easy this swap will be since i've never seen anyone else do it. Also will the instrument panel in my dash still work cuz i know the dashes in the 2 cars are very different. I know i kinda got of teh whole compreesion ratio topic but any help on these questions would be great. I can get a head from a 92-96 and 9'97 up for about the same price and pretty cheap because my friends dad owns a just yard and said he'd give me everything i needed (IM, Head, EM, ECU) and anything else for like 500 bucks. Just tryin to make a decision so i can get started.
     
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    im not sure what all you would have to do to get that head on there, you have to remember that the 4th gen h22a has a different block design than that of the 5th gen, 4th gen being superior of course. if you plan on throwing boost at it, keep the h23 compression. ummm good luck?
     
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    ^ word, you don't want high compression with boost. Also not only are the blocks different between 4th and 5th gens but since you have a OBD1 setup, I've heard there will be issues when putting on the OBD2 head in a very recent post on hondaswap
     
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    I think it's a pretty bad idea to try get get an OBD2 head onto an OBD1 block. BlackJDMdeath had a good point about the two different block designs (closed deck vs. open deck), and I think that's just going to give you even more headaches.
     
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    Thanx for the advise. I think i'm just going to try to sell my h23 and swap in an H22. I think it will save me alot of time and headaches.
     
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