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D16A6 in a 88 standard swap

Discussion in 'HYBRID -> ED-EF / DA' started by wifeCRVmeEF, May 12, 2009.

  1. wifeCRVmeEF

    wifeCRVmeEF New Member

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    pretty much i have searched around for info on swap. I have the tranny coming with it to. I would love to know if i have to change the axles out of mine for Si axles or can i use my stock axles. Also most likely i would have to go to rywire.com and send my harness and they would modify it to make the A6 run in my car and convert to DPFI to MPFI. I am doing the swap with a couple of friends and for me its venturing to uncharted waters. Can i use the existing motor mounts for the swap? Oh the real question is will i need a different ECU? PM6?
     
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    K2e2vin Senior Member

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    Stock axles will work just fine.

    You can do the MPFI conversion yourself(it's well documented) or of course, send it to rywire. That's really up to you.

    Yes, existing motor mounts will work.

    Yes, it's best to run the ECU meant for the engine anyway. The DPFI ECU wouldn't work at all as it's designed to only control 2 injectors.
     
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    BradleyJP New Member

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    All axles for D-Series motors are the same, right?
     
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    K2e2vin Senior Member

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    They're actually different on the knuckle end(HF and Std are smaller, Si/DX are the same), but on the transmission end they're the same. So, you'd just use whatever came with the car.

    As far as automatic axles are concerned, I don't know. I've honestly never touched a automatic 88-91 Civic/CRX.
     
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    automatic and manual axles are all the same
     
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    thanks for the heads up kev...one question so the ECU's just swap out right ?connectors are all the same? i cannot wait to get started on this swap!!!
     
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    89' Project Civic d16a6/d16y8 "mini-me"

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    You need to convert from DPFI to MPFI (very easy!), then you need a PM6 ECU. I am assuming you already bought an Si manifold?. As for the transmission I am assuming that you purchased an Si tranny as well. So I believe you have to go with Si axles, but the only problem that persists is that you need to convert to Si hub assembly and that means taking your front suspension apart and buying a set of 88-91' Civic/CRX axles and hub assembly. I myself have the d16a6/d16y8 "mini-me" and use the Cx transmission because I won't have to switch out the hub assembly. Good luck.
     
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    Also, do you have an Si engine bay harness because if you do this will make the DPFI to MPFI swap easy. You will also need an injector resistor box for this or you will fry your injectors.
     
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    You don't need to convert to the Si hub assembly; just run whatever axles came in your car.

    As stated before, the only two 88-91's that have different hub/axle assemblies are the Std and the HF. Even then, you can just use the corresponding axles and it will work just fine. Differences are only on the hub-end. Transmission end is all the same.
     
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    89' Project Civic d16a6/d16y8 "mini-me"

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    Thanks man, I didn't know that. I wanted to buy an a6 Si transmission for my swap but didn't want to have to worry about switching hub assemblies and such. I will post a thread when I receive the transmission now.
     
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    it will come with the transmission as well. i might upgrade to the Si axles and hub unless kevin tells me there is no need for itand just stay with mine. I have not checked the condition of the axles i have on my car yet that is yet to be done once i get some wrench time. I am going to assume the worst, but that wont matter since i can just get some reman ones @ parts store or used ones that are for sale. Most likely my friend is good with wiring so DPFI to MPFI. Now i need to go to the for sale threads and watch out for PM6 ECU's. I would think that it will need a scan tool to program it ^_^
     
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    89' Project Civic d16a6/d16y8 "mini-me"

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    I have a PM6 ECU out of a running 89' Honda CRX for $10. Let me know if you want it!.
     
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    The only reason to upgrade to Si/DX knuckles are if you want the bigger brakes. I can't tell you if it's needed or not as that's up to you.
     
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    $10 shipped?
     
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    at least i know there is a reason to switch...:D
     
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