D16A6 "swap" (long story)..

[arsenal55]

Hey everyone. I am a big CR-X fan, and currently own 2. I live in Chicago, but found a very well-kept CRX Si in TX. After driving it up for 400 miles, the timing belt ripped and bent the valves.

Now, I found the car had a D15B2 long block in it, with a "16 valve" valve cover . Anyway, that engine is going to be replaced; I have found a D16A6 for $200. It was running before a B16A2 swap was done to its previous car, says the owner.

So here we go; for $200 I get a D16A6 that should run, and for a little more, somebody wants to come to my house and claims he can swap the motors . How on earth can you swap a motor with no engine hoist and simply use impact tools at most? Is he full of it? Forgive my ignorance, thats why I'm here

 

[ekkosan]

think he;s full of it

ok, maybe we can give the guy the beni of doubt, but I just started my b16a swap into a 90 civic hatch. when I pulled the old engine ( a d15) it was pretty heavy and it still has the tranny mind you, so I don't think there would be any way to get it out without a cherry picker(Unless he is planning on taking apart all the front end, bumper, all that, and pull it out from the front.
hope this helps

 

[lil_red_rex]

he can pull it easily withouth a hoist....undo everything incluing harness, hoses, axels..shift linkage n all....then when the motor is disconnected sitting on the floor.....jack the hell out of the car and pull it from underneath.......then when installing the new one....either use a poll with a chain strapped to the engine to the poll and have two buddies at each end of the poll....the lower it to where it needs to sit and bolt in a few mounts....viola...then put everything back together....or simply do the same way u took it out....how i alwaysdid it.....worked wonders

 

[jlicrx]

make sure the guy that is going to do it knows what he is doing (i doubt that he does) - since the CRX had a D15B2, it miust be a DX model - the D15B2 has Dual Point Fuel Injection - the D16A6 that you plan to install is the Si engine that has Multi Point Fuel Injection - in order to install it in your CRX, the wiring will need to be converted from DPFI to MPFI, which means adding wiring for the other 2 injectors, adding wiring for the Cylinder Position Sensor and adding an injector resistor box - you will need a different ECU (preferably PM6) as the ECU in the DX will not work with the MPFI on the D16A6 - it could also be done by swapping the intake manifold, distributor, etc. from the D15B2 onto the D16A6, which would not require you to do any wiring changes

 

[arsenal55]

you're not going to believe this; although it has a D15B2, it was an Si model. I could tell it was restored before; minor frame damage, new exterior parts, new engine mounts. But it was an Si model and therefore MPFI originally. The D16A6 SHOULD work then, right?

 

[jlicrx]

you're not going to believe this; although it has a D15B2, it was an Si model. I could tell it was restored before; minor frame damage, new exterior parts, new engine mounts. But it was an Si model and therefore MPFI originally. The D16A6 SHOULD work then, right?

yes, it should

 

[arsenal55]

thanks for the temp. peace of mind guys. So, we have a D16A6 that was running before it was taken out and a at-home swap. Hope it all works

 

[reckedracing]

ok, maybe we can give the guy the beni of doubt, but I just started my b16a swap into a 90 civic hatch. when I pulled the old engine ( a d15) it was pretty heavy and it still has the tranny mind you, so I don't think there would be any way to get it out without a cherry picker(Unless he is planning on taking apart all the front end, bumper, all that, and pull it out from the front.
hope this helps

not gonna work on a honda without breaking out the swazall

he could drop the trans, and then 2 people can pick the motor out with manual labor
or maybe he has a crane he'll bring with him?
this is definately not the EASY way to do it
lol

 

[arsenal55]

we should have 3-5 guys with us

 

[ekkosan]

lol yeah not the easy way is right. I guess you could do all the extra work to take it out like that. couldn't you rent a cherry picker? I am working with one friend so just the two of us have been able to get it going so far. i just figure, I want to make my swap as smooth as possible, so I kinda got all my stuff ready to go and cleared a huge spot in garage. but, whatever works i guess.

 

[arsenal55]

taking it to my buddy's buddy's shop on Saturday

 

[phyregod]

I have lifted a d16a6+transmission out of the engine bay with no tools at all, I just muscled the thing out of its hole. Its only like 300 pounds or so. Two people could do it pretty easily.

 

[dale21]

hi there Ive done the same swap as you are doing. I disconected everything placed a floor jack under the sum and gentaly lowered motor to ground then with another floor jack i jacked the front of the car up intill motor cleared under neath of car. then pull jack out with motor on it just have to balance motor a little bit. befor i fitted my new motor i tock the gearbox off then i place new motor on jack and wheeled under car then i let the car down and just jacked motor up to engine mounts. Its a wee bit slower than a hoist but it works ok. then i placed gearbox on jack and refitted it to motor Crazy@woosh.co.nz