thanks for all the positive responds i've gotten from this forum. i had one [hopefully] last question regarding which swap for my civic. i was going to do the itr swap with installation for 4600 because i really wanted the lsd tranny that the c1 lacked and i aslo want to run 13's. but im also on a 5k limit for the swap so i wouldn't have much left over to do anything to my car. all i have currently is kudo coilovers, not even a chamber kit! i found a c1 comp. swap with lsd tranny for 3950 incl. installation. should i stick with the itr? if so what should i spend the left over $400 on? or should i go with the c1? and if so what should i spend the left over $1050 on? i want to be running 13's or very low 14's. thank u guys so much for helping me out and giving me ur oppinions.