Difference between a democrat and republican

[cheese9988]

I didn't see this topic here yet in the search and thought it be a good one. This year I feel that I should vote, so I registered, I think its important that people do. I have never been much into politics until the last few years.
Well I have been doing the research between the difference parties and people up for election. I "think" I know who I am probably going to vote for. But I went to research which political party I liked and found that most every resourse I look up is geared one way or another to a certian party. This is making it really confusing as to which one I like more. To make things worse the person I wanted to vote for is the opposite of the party I liked.
So what I am asking is, in a nutshell, without opinion on who likes who, what is the diffrerence between a republican and a democrat? Feel free to elaborate.

 

[Cashizslick]

Originally posted by cheese9988@Sep 9 2004, 12:27 PM
I didn't see this topic here yet in the search and thought it be a good one. This year I feel that I should vote, so I registered, I think its important that people do. I have never been much into politics until the last few years.
Well I have been doing the research between the difference parties and people up for election. I "think" I know who I am probably going to vote for. But I went to research which political party I liked and found that most every resourse I look up is geared one way or another to a certian party. This is making it really confusing as to which one I like more. To make things worse the person I wanted to vote for is the opposite of the party I liked.
So what I am asking is, in a nutshell, without opinion on who likes who, what is the diffrerence between a republican and a democrat? Feel free to elaborate.

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Well, Republicans tend to be conservative or "right wing" on many issues. For instance, most republicans favor small government, tend to be prolife, and want to lower taxes because they feel that the people of this country know how to better spend their money than the government does.

Democrats usually tend to be liberal in many areas or "Left Wing". Democrats have traditionaly advocated big government because they feel that it is the governments job to provide for the people of this country - (such as) free prescription drugs for seinors, Social Security, Unemployment, and Welfare.

Personally, i will vote Republican only because i know that running the Government is like running a business . . . lowering your opperating costs (taxes) and maximising your Revenue (aka, the economy).

I have nothing against people who will chose to vote for democratic - there are a lot of good things that can come out of programs like social security and welfare, but i think those systems need to be reworked. . . (the way the current system is, the taxes i pay out of my paycheck go to some idiot who is sittin around the house collecting unemployement, watching the Maury show, when they should be lookin for work.) - just my 2c

 

[cheese9988]

Thanks, I seem to like republicans better, but I liked some of kerrys views better. I have always been big with whats going on with the economy just because in my opinion if that is going well alot of other things will be (ie unemployment, welfare, etc) and felt bush hadn't been doing a good job that way, plus the war and fuel costs.
If anybody else wants to add to the differences between the two parties.

 

[Sabz5150]

Originally posted by Cashizslick@Sep 9 2004, 12:39 PM
Personally, i will vote Republican only because i know that running the Government is like running a business .

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You mean that all our representatives will be in India?

Lowering taxes only works to a certain point. Where do you think the money for goverment projects comes from? Even down to the local gov't, roads, traffic lights, libraries, universities, etc etc., that all comes from tax money. We all have to pay our taxes, that's one of the things that makes us responsible Americans.

America's been cutting taxes left and right yet the economy is still sinking like the Titanic. Unless you've got a lot of money, the taxes that have been cut and this flat tax crap don't help.

 

[cheese9988]

Kerry mentioned he would stop some of the tax breaks for companys trying to move overseas, which would help work here. We will see if he actually does this or not. Either way I like the idea.

 

[BodyDroppedNikes]

both democrats and republicans lie. vote for the lesser of the 2 evils and who YOU feel is the best man for the job.

 

[posol]

I registered as an independant-

both parties have the perks and their faults, so i chose neither.

 

[dohcvtec_accord]

There's no difference between Republicans and Democrats. They all lie and they're all controlled by who pays them. I'm voting 3rd party in this election (NOT Nader).

 

[phunky.buddha]

Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Sep 9 2004, 01:18 PM
I registered as an independant-

both parties have the perks and their faults, so i chose neither.

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[StealthMode]

isn't Bush planning another amnesty? (sp?) that would mean that all immigrants are immediately citizens, right? cheap labor. well for those who actually work instead of sitting at home with 20 kids, collecting welfare. that's my main concern with Bush, but i am not at all impressed with Kerry. i will vote Republican, but there are some things that i don't like. overall, i like how Bush did, and i hope he gets another term. IMO, it takes more than one term to get everything straightened out.

 

[reckedracing]

[/QUOTE]Personally, i will vote Republican only because i know that running the Government is like running a business . . . lowering your opperating costs (taxes) and maximising your Revenue (aka, the economy).

This could not be any more incorrect...
absolutely no basis in economics...

For the gov't taxes ARE the revenue, and the costs are the expenses they pay for the services provided to the citizens of this country.

Taxpayers feel that an increase in taxes is so horrible so the gov't tries not to raise taxes, but as inflation rises and the cost of living rises, so also must the costs that the government has to pay for the same services. So the only way to avoid raising taxes is to maintain the same level of expense, and since costs are rising but the amount they can spend stays the same, it results in a decrease of services.

And the other revenue option for the gov't besides taxes is raising funds through issueing debt. And this is how we have one of the largest national debts in history(mostly due to the illegal war in iraq.)

But for the person looking for a unbiased view of politics, check out http://www.vote-smart.org/

I have not checked out the site too much so far, but saw a commercial for it on tv lastnight and it might be the best source of information. Let us know what you think of this site.

Now the problem with both parties is that they are not serving the people they are representing. Not republicans or democrats but BOTH SERVE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS AND CORPORATIONS, or basically anyone who will give them money. A prime example in present terms would be the media blitzed war for iraq and then all the no bid contracts that were secretly handed over to the company that dick used to run. CONFLICT OF INTEREST??? LACK OF ETHICS???

 

[Cashizslick]

Originally posted by Sabz5150+Sep 9 2004, 01:04 PM-->

Cashizslick

@Sep 9 2004, 12:39 PM
Personally, i will vote Republican only because i know that running the Government is like running a business .

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You mean that all our representatives will be in India?

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???

 

[Cashizslick]

Originally posted by Callidus@Sep 9 2004, 02:40 PM
i like how Bush did, and i hope he gets another term. IMO, it takes more than one term to get everything straightened out.

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I agree - if kerry comes into office hes gonna skrew up everything. In Trying to take a stance on EVERYTHING, john kerry clearly stands for NOTHING.

Here are things most people dont know. Since Bush has been in office, the economy has improved. This is because economies of scale like the U.S. economy ALWAYS go thru minor resessions.

Second, although we have troops in iraq, many of whom have lost their lives, it has not been in vain. Terrorists DID attack our country, and terrists DID take the lives of American Citizens over there (we all saw the video's). Those people are evil and wouldnt hesitate to bring the lives of YOU and YOUR FAMILY to an end.

 

[reckedracing]

everything already is screwed up, where have you been?

the whole world thinks america is shit, instead of just a few rogue states...
we spoiled all the support that we recieved after 9/11


the economy has improved??
what numbers are you looking at here?
the economy took a shit, corporate scandals have gone out of control, the gov't refuses to step up and police the corporations because of their interests in the money that those corps provide, outsourcing is at an all time high, and the gov't just sits and watches as more and more AVERAGE AMERICANS lives go in the shitter

and the iraq war is in vain...
again, wake up...
terrorists attacked our country, TERRORISTS with much more affiliation to saudis than to iraq, congress has even said that iraq had no connection to the 9/11 attacks, but people still use terrorists to justify the iraq war, YOU ARE WRONG, IT WAS ABOUT OIL AND THE SPOILS OF WAR... which benefit big corp's and not the average american

sure, saddam was bad, but what about iran, what about sudan, what about north korea, or what about the saudis???

and those people were not evil, saddam was evil, but the average iraqi couldn;t have given two shits about america or what we do, but then our troops went into iraq and stomped the shit out of civilians and basically abused the shit out of everyone in the country, and now the support we had from the iraqi's has been wasted as well... and the terrorists we now see in iraq are from other countries that were able to come into iraq because of its complete lack of security.

and all the civil unrest in iraq is in direct reaction to security fears, unemployment, no power, bad living conditions, and just in general pissed off cause they are being occupied by people who are only there to rape the country of its natural resources so the rich in this country can just get richer by a war funded on the backs of the average american, and funded by debt that will fall on the backs of our future generations...

 

[Cashizslick]

Originally posted by reckedracing@Sep 9 2004, 05:17 PM
the economy has improved??
what numbers are you looking at here?

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Well if you read the wall street journal, which you obviously don't, you would notice the various articles, editorials, and graphs which explain that our economy is doing a lot better since Bush's tax cut.

 

[MaaseyRacer]

Originally posted by Cashizslick+Sep 9 2004, 03:54 PM-->

reckedracing

@Sep 9 2004, 05:17 PM
the economy has improved??
what numbers are you looking at here?

[post=388187]Quoted post[/post]​

Well if you read the wall street journal, which you obviously don't, you would notice the various articles, editorials, and graphs which explain that our economy is doing a lot better since Bush's tax cut.

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Yo this country almost has a 7trillion dollar deficit. We are spending a billion dollars a week on a war we cannot justify. And we are cutting huge amounts of taxes from the rich. The average Joe (like most people on this site) recieves a $600 dollar tax cut. 600 bucks is not shit. We are dealing with other countries problems and ignoring the problems at home, like healthcare, education, and the environment.

Read up on the economy:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...pr/campaign_rdp
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/politics/po...s-campaign.html
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/business/bu...my-jobless.html
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...alth_care_costs

Read up on the president:
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040909_831.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A...anguage=printer
http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20040905/...G=home&SEC=news
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/sto...5p-197775c.html

See what the war is doing:
http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=23207

 

[brc80]

Just a question, where does the opinion come form that the more money you make the more you should have to put in?

 

[Sabz5150]

Originally posted by brc80@Sep 9 2004, 07:29 PM
Just a question, where does the opinion come form that the more money you make the more you should have to put in?

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It's called income tax. http://www.psnw.com/~bashford/taxation.html

 

[Cashizslick]

Originally posted by brc80@Sep 9 2004, 07:29 PM
Just a question, where does the opinion come form that the more money you make the more you should have to put in?

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Its called a "Graduated Tax System". Most conservatives are for a "Flat Tax Systsem" which would be . . oh, lets say 7% of your earnings for EVERYBODY, not 2% for poor people and 60% for rich people.

 

[Cashizslick]

Originally posted by MaaseyRacer+Sep 9 2004, 07:25 PM-->

Originally posted by Cashizslick@Sep 9 2004, 03:54 PM
reckedracing

@Sep 9 2004, 05:17 PM
the economy has improved??
what numbers are you looking at here?

[post=388187]Quoted post[/post]​

Well if you read the wall street journal, which you obviously don't, you would notice the various articles, editorials, and graphs which explain that our economy is doing a lot better since Bush's tax cut.

[post=388224]Quoted post[/post]​

Yo this country almost has a 7trillion dollar deficit. We are spending a billion dollars a week on a war we cannot justify. And we are cutting huge amounts of taxes from the rich. The average Joe (like most people on this site) recieves a $600 dollar tax cut. 600 bucks is not shit. We are dealing with other countries problems and ignoring the problems at home, like healthcare, education, and the environment.

Read up on the economy:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...pr/campaign_rdp
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/politics/po...s-campaign.html
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/business/bu...my-jobless.html
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...alth_care_costs

Read up on the president:
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040909_831.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A...anguage=printer
http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20040905/...G=home&SEC=news
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/sto...5p-197775c.html

See what the war is doing:
http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=23207

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Why didnt you post any information about John Kerry's fake war record?