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Difference in Blue Top and Red Top H22...

Discussion in 'HYBRID -> BA-BB /CA-CD' started by BaSiC Evil, Sep 8, 2003.

  1. BaSiC Evil

    BaSiC Evil Junior Member

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    Does anyone know if there are any differences in the specs on these two motors?
     
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    I thought the blue top was the F20B from the JDM SiR Accord. I could be wrong....
     
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    :D the red top is honda prelude type s
    220horses 163 torque
    blue: f20b accord sir-t
    200horses 156 torque
    DO ME A FAVOUR: IF YOU DONT KNOW ALREADY FIND OUT IF YOUR ENGINE ( 1997 H22A JDM) IS OBD1 OR OBD2. I HAVE A CURRENT POST RIGHT NOW THAT I AM GETTING VARIOUS ANSWERS FROM.

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    and these car are cheap too not the ridiculous $50-90K for legal nissan skylines in the us.
    Ps. anyone want anyone of these exotic cars shipped to the states, i might be able to help. unpredictable01@hotmail.com
     
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    BaSiC Evil Junior Member

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    I don't think that the red top is the type S. I currently have the Red top and it's got nowhere near 220HP.

    Essentially, here's what I need to know.

    I need to know if the 5-speed transmission will swap out of a blue-top and into my red-top.

    I have a 1997 JDM Prelude SiR with a red-top and it is an automatic. Does anyone know if this tranny will swap out with no problems, major modifications or alterations?
     
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    dohcvtec_accord WRX Sellout

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    The red top is indeed the Type S. Maybe you just got a normal JDM H22 and it happened to have a red valve cover?

    Also, Honda's engines with auto trannies are always less tuned than their manual trannies. Less aggressive cams is the biggest difference. And now that I think of it, I don't think the Type S even came in an automatic. Much like the Integra Type R, they only came with manual trannies.

    But to answer your question....all H and F-series trannies are interchangeable. You may have to move a mounting stud, but that's about it.
     
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    Will any mods or alterations have to be made to the shift linkage and mounts for the tranny for it to fit though?
     
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    Not that I know of. All the H-series engines sit the same in the engine bays, use the same mounts, etc. Even though the blue top is an F-series engine, it should swap directly onto your engine.

    For example....when I swapped an H22 into my old Accord, I didn't have to do anything special with the tranny, tranny mount or shift linkage. It just all bolted right up. You should be in the same boat.
     
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    I currently have a auto and need to swap to a 5-speed. Will this work?
     
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    Sure it'll work. It's not easy, but it can be done. Either search this site or search the web for instructions, some very detailed sets of instructions already exist.
     
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    yea red top is type s and it also has a system similar to lsd with it. you might have boughten h22a and they put a type s cover on it
     
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    Actually, the Type S came both with an ATTS tranny (similar to an LSD), and a true LSD-equipped tranny as well.
     
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    actually the type s came with atts and the sir-s came with the lsd. i'm pretty sure i might have switched them around. but both do not have atts.
     
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    I'm positive the Type S came with an LSD. And I remember seeing a website that listed the Type S and having come with both trannies, but it's very possible they're full of shite.
     
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    well i'm 120% postive they don't share atts. it's either the sir-s that has the atts or the type s that has it.
     
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    M2B4 is LSD tranny but not sure with motor it was mated with. :unsure:
     
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    the m2b4 is just the regular h22a lsd tranny.
     
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