I made a lower tie bar for the rear of my EG civic. I saw the set-up on another web page and duplicated what they did. The 1" solid bar was scrap so the only cost was longer bolts for the lower control arms. Its probably mind over reality but it seemed to really hold the rear end in place. I was doing some very spirited slalom driving on wet roads and the rear never even tried to break free. I gained enough confidence to concentrate on building/maintaining speed rather than pussyfooting waiting for the rear end to jump around. Has anyone else installed one? Could you tell a big difference too or is it all in my head.