Dominos Delivery. No Tip?

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I didnt have a car for a while between the S2K and the accord so i was ordering delivery almost daily. Finally just gnawed at me just the right way that I'd ask.

As for why get dominos delivery, its cause, no bull shit, their pizza is better than it used to be. Pacific Veggie and Philly Cheese Steak pizza are both off the chain.
 
the new dominos is phenomenal. well...as far as delivery pizza goes.
 
yea.. they've stepped up their game.. it used to be terrible, so bad that i hadnt eaten it since i was 8 yrs old when they delivered a stale pizza.. lol
 
chestercheeto48 said:
Could it be the fact that a tip on a credit card needs to be counted in tax purposes since there is a paper trail (the receipt)? I know I always tip in cash even if I pay for the service with a debit/CC. I have heard somewhere that you "have" to report the tips on your recipts. Just a theory.
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I think this is the reason too. That way......the cash they may receive isn't accounted for. I try to not tip with my credit card b/c I know they HAVE TO claim it as income (in terms of taxes) and I use cash instead.
 
CAFROG said:
I think this is the reason too. That way......the cash they may receive isn't accounted for. I try to not tip with my credit card b/c I know they HAVE TO claim it as income (in terms of taxes) and I use cash instead.
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i do this when i'm at a restaurant. i'll put the meal on my card and leave cash.

however, it is technically dodging taxes. lol but either way, it's better to get tipped and taxed than no tip at all.
 
People assume if you pay cash there is no tip trail. Too bad the IRS isn't as dumb as we'd like to think. They expect you to make a base level of tips, they know if you're not making that base level you would not work there. Same for waiting tables or working a bar.

This is a little better insight on how it really works if done the correct way and not under the table as in employees being paid and getting a legit check.

If an employer is paying someone under minimum wage meaning 3 or 4 bucks an hour + tips when it comes to submitting payroll, the employer must submit that the employee made enough tips to cover the difference from minimum wage and their base 3-4 dollar wage. If the tips is not enough to cover the difference, the employer must pay the difference. A lot of businesses will assume tips and claim enough tips on behalf of the employees so that they wont have to pay them the difference to match minumum wage, this is pretty common practice and if the server/delivery guy makes less then enough tips to cover the gap, then the employee gets screwed and the business saves money since they put down that the employee made enough tips to cover that min wage gap. I've seen this at too many places. I've even run across it at our place, but we end up paying out the difference, then what do we do? I figure that 1 of two things happened. either a. we don't need that many servers/bussers and cut back hours, or B. the server really sucks and needs be let go because he can't pull his weight in tips.

If a tipped employee is showing a common trend of getting less tips aka cash tips. it places the person into the high risk audit category and that just opens a whole can of warms. However, most of that falls back on the business since the business is who handles keeping track of tips to make sure that tipped employees meet the min wage requirement.

If a delivery guy is drawing a line through the tip spot, he could be double dipping saying he got stiffed causing the business to pay out the difference in the tipped wage and min wage.

The only upside to tips and taxes is the IRS only assumes 10-15% so if you're busting out 20-25% you can play with your #s a bit, as long as you show that your tips are in the 10-15% range and that you make enough to cover the difference in payroll to meet min wage. Thankfully most servers who pull their weight can do 15-25 an hour easily so that's never an issue.

Yes I do payroll.

I'll say it again, call and ask a manager.
 
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jeffie7 said:
People assume if you pay cash there is no tip trail. Too bad the IRS isn't as dumb as we'd like to think. They expect you to make a base level of tips, they know if you're not making that base level you would not work there. Same for waiting tables or working a bar.

This is a little better insight on how it really works if done the correct way and not under the table as in employees being paid and getting a legit check.

If an employer is paying someone under minimum wage meaning 3 or 4 bucks an hour + tips when it comes to submitting payroll, the employer must submit that the employee made enough tips to cover the difference from minimum wage and their base 3-4 dollar wage. If the tips is not enough to cover the difference, the employer must pay the difference. A lot of businesses will assume tips and claim enough tips on behalf of the employees so that they wont have to pay them the difference to match minumum wage, this is pretty common practice and if the server/delivery guy makes less then enough tips to cover the gap, then the employee gets screwed and the business saves money since they put down that the employee made enough tips to cover that min wage gap. I've seen this at too many places. I've even run across it at our place, but we end up paying out the difference, then what do we do? I figure that 1 of two things happened. either a. we don't need that many servers/bussers and cut back hours, or B. the server really sucks and needs be let go because he can't pull his weight in tips.

If a tipped employee is showing a common trend of getting less tips aka cash tips. it places the person into the high risk audit category and that just opens a whole can of warms. However, most of that falls back on the business since the business is who handles keeping track of tips to make sure that tipped employees meet the min wage requirement.

If a delivery guy is drawing a line through the tip spot, he could be double dipping saying he got stiffed causing the business to pay out the difference in the tipped wage and min wage.

The only upside to tips and taxes is the IRS only assumes 10-15% so if you're busting out 20-25% you can play with your #s a bit, as long as you show that your tips are in the 10-15% range and that you make enough to cover the difference in payroll to meet min wage. Thankfully most servers who pull their weight can do 15-25 an hour easily so that's never an issue.

Yes I do payroll.

I'll say it again, call and ask a manager.
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I have worked at several bars and never claimed any tips nor had it taken out of my payroll. I guess that is because I was making 8-10.00 an hour bartending before the tips.
 
chestercheeto48 said:
I have worked at several bars and never claimed any tips nor had it taken out of my payroll. I guess that is because I was making 8-10.00 an hour bartending before the tips.
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Yup, you're getting paid at least min wage so that means the business doesn't have to worry about it, however if they get audited they will get raped if they see any sign of tipping and no tips making it to the paper work.

A good bit of bars around here do the same thing, even with the servers handling food, they just pretend the employee doesn't work there or is a normal shift worker.. In fact I just hired a new sever and she said, wow I'm getting a pay check? I've never had to fill out any of these papers before at any of my previous serving jobs..... basic tax papers.... yeah people play with fire a lot.

Restaurants are the highest risk business out there. There's a reason for it. That alone could cause a bar/restaurant to go out of business.

It's like driving a brand new Z06 with no insurance, you might save a lot of money, IF nothing happens.
 
Are there Food Places that don't pay minimum wages? I thought that was like casinos and such. And yes...they do have to 'claim' some of the cash tips for taxes but they can still fudge the hell out of it if they get mostly cash. Credit tips are a must. I figure these guys are trying to make a living off it (yes this is the case a lot fo the time) and its hard to do. So I cash it up and let them make that decision.
 
CAFROG said:
Are there Food Places that don't pay minimum wages? I thought that was like casinos and such. And yes...they do have to 'claim' some of the cash tips for taxes but they can still fudge the hell out of it if they get mostly cash. Credit tips are a must. I figure these guys are trying to make a living off it (yes this is the case a lot fo the time) and its hard to do. So I cash it up and let them make that decision.
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Credit card tips do not get reported on payroll, tips are tips in the end, the only issue with credit card tips is the IRS if doing an audit could see a set tip but only credit card check to credit card check they couldn't see an over all amount of tips. If half people tip with cash and half with credit its a wash.

If you tip too low, but just high enough to make things mesh payroll wise, you should be ok, however if you get audited they will want to know why you're only making just enough to cover the difference when most people in the field make 2-3 times as much.

Half of my income is based on tips, i've waited tables for 10 year now. its not worth getting caught just to save a few bucks on taxes.

gotta pay it one way or another.
 
I'm curious as well. What pizza place? I'll call them up and ask if you won't.
 
I worked delivering for pizza hut for like 3 years. 2 and a half of that I claimed 0 tips. I made min wage but part time and routinely tripled my actual check in tips. I started as kitchen, but moved to the delivery in a short time and I guess they never changed my job code. It was supposed to ask you how many tips you made. But it never did. Then they finally changed it and it started prompting me for the amount of tips I made. I just made it easy and put $1 for each order I delivered. To me tips shouldn't be taxed. That's like claiming the birthday money your grandma gave you.
 
That doesn't mean anyone does it. Maybe the uptight IRS agent lol. The lotto might be a little more traceable however
 
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