Discussion in 'Members' Lounge' started by Jdubspeeds, May 14, 2004.
Sorry if this is repost, first time ive seen it.
Its very disturbing to watch man, its by far the most f'd up shit ive seen on the internet. It ownz www.tubgirl.com
Ya man. Fucked up. I saved in on my hard drive. Only watched it once and I'm afraid to watch it again.
i taste blood in my mouth. that makes me VERY angry. i wish all of them terrorist get the same treatment.
if this is the guy who just got his head cut off.....
i downloaded it today off consumptionjunction....
and I was so fucking frightened by what I saw....i almost threw up.
it takes ALOT to make me wretch in disgust, but those fuckign towel headed sand niggers did just that.
i promptly deleted that shit off my hard drive....
thats just fucking disgusting. someone delete that link.
This footage is getting hard to find. I'm finding a block at most international news sites for it.
But it needs to be seen - And not by all.
Here is a quick thing about what happened in the Iraqi prisons.
Muslim extremists don't care about dying. You can't threaten them. You can't use harmful tortures with them, and they crave honorable death like you and I might crave a B18C5.
But Humilitation is something worse to them. Showing them your shoe, having them naked, it's worse to them than pain and torture. And better for us, because we really dont' like killing people.
Also, you need to remember that the terrorist that committed this act is NOT iraqi, and it is not a response from Iraqi militants. He is working in conjunction, and in Iraq to further his own anti-christian (and thus, anti-american) agenda. He is actually Jordanian.
And Jordan does things differently. Differently than even the worst criminals in Iraq and Afghanistan. This guy is small, and under-powered to not be a big threat, but what goes on in his mind is more terrible than even Hitler.
And many more will be making shows like this. It's important to remember that this is NOT an Iraqi war thing. This is mindless, animalistic brutality to make people fear him so that he can gain a personal foothold in world activity.
ill put it up on my webspace if you all like.
you can download it off of kazaa
so im lost.....i thought iraq was won....
where did all these new fucks come from in the past few months? who are they?
they should really make the muslims eat pig....or was it a cow?
whatever holy sacred animal.....
I would like to point you in the direction of Post WWII Germany, and the History Channel's latest runnings of their documentaries. They raise a very good point, in relation to our current dealings with the Middle East.
When we won WWII, Nazi Insurgency was actively fighting for 15 years after the official surrender. War NEVER ends. God, we still have anti-american sentiments in England from the Revolution. Shit, we have Southerners all bent out of shape about the Civil War ! Even today, NeoNazi and the actual NAZI party is alive and kicking - And continously plotting some sort of Reich return.
In our dealings in the Middle East we will see the faces of a lot of these Ticks. And they are like Ticks, piggy-backing themselves in the action just to push their own unique agenda.
Croatian wars, conflicts in the Balkans - We did the same thing. Fighting there was punctuated by the marriage of American meddling (Thanks Clinton). And we STILL have interests posted there !
I'm not trying to push any kind of my own opinions, but I do strongly feel that now more than ever we need to support a war on Terror. After the big guys are down (Bin laden, down (but not out.. yeah), Saddam Down.. ) We'll be performing a trickle-down eradication of Terrorists that WILL make a difference on the free passage of innocent human beings around the globe.
No longer should anyone feel threatened to travel because of what their government does. No longer should an employee - Someone like Berg who was trying to earn a living and help a liberated people - EVER be held against his will again.
Now people ask why we are in Iraq - Soon I expect we will be in Sudan, Syria, Iran and now Jordan.. .And when you ask "Why are we there because of something that Al Quaida did" you can remember that we aren't attacking Afghanistan. We aren't attacking Iraq. We are attacking terrorist regimes that threaten us, and our fellow human beings.
I'm Steven Earl, and I endorse this message.
yah, i posted in the other iraq forum, about war being war and shit...but this footage was just wrong in so many ways. when i first heard about this, i thought they just cut off his head...i didnt know that they slowly gruesomely sawed his head off. Imagine being still alive, while your head is slowly being cut off...oh man...RIP.
just saw the footage, dunno why i wanted to watch it really. human nature is a fucked up thing.
i reckon the guy would have probably died from shock before they had finshed cutting his head off, from what i have read and seen about executions alot of people die instantly from the shock of the trauma enflicted upon them rather than the actual trauma
in his case i hope this was so.
war is war theres nothing right or wrong there are people like this all over the world in every country some just choose to murder in private behind closed doors away from the spotlight.
its human nature in a very basic babaric way, thankfully most people have evolved and suppressed such ways but there will always be people who havent, and this is why there will never be complete peace and will always be war. in every war there is born a new hatred towards someone ready to fuel the next one.
it will never stop as long as there some who wants to be in charge and have the power to say whats right and wrong
it looks fake to me....
they found his body near an overpass in baghdad. :/
i'm curious, but i won't watch it, i'd feel too disrespectful towards his family. his father said he wished the details weren't made public. i heard that he makes the most ungodly noises, and that alone is enough to make me vomit. my heart goes out to his family.
being at work, i didn't have my sound on...
but, seriously, it looks fake.
if the guy is dead- he's dead. but the video, is not too convincing.
yea he is dead, haven't you watched the news? Looks real enough for me
Some very interesting theories have been popping up, and a couple of them even to me are thought provoking. I think the best founded one, is actually backed up by some "common sense" observations. I just saw this on H-T in their thread on it....
There are about five other things wrong here. But one you can't see.
Well, apparently, as my wife just told me, this has surfaced on NBC, so I guess I need to watch more TV instead of Honda forum Oh well, for those that haven't seen the comparisions, it's something interesting.
the number of participants (one is black and one is female in the Army picture, but could easily be someone else in the video)
the wall color
the guy wearing tennis shoes
in the video one is wearing a gold ring, muslums don't wear gold
the skin tones is way off from the suspected killer, and the video time jumps dramaticly, even though it is supposed to be a linear event (could have happened in editting though.)
All those could however be concidence, but there is also the question of how he got into Iraq, you CAN NOT just fly in, and how he was moving from place to place working contracts without liscenses or military escorts, and why the Iraqi police emphatically deny having ever arrested him.
i watched the video, looks real to me. i was overwhelmed, knowing that its real, it actually happened. and im with tony, i deleted that shit immediately after i was done watching it
That's what I said, but thinking about it more and more, it almost makes sense. It would be very angering to think that this was done by American government to fuel a faultering war effort. Now, usually I am one to give our leaders the benefit of the doubt, so getting some of this dismissed would be good.
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