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East Coast Bias and the Heisman

Discussion in 'Members' Lounge' started by Capt. Orygun, Oct 30, 2007.

  1. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    Today Ryan is first in the race for every body's favorite trophy, Dixon, finally is second

    Ryan still gets 4 votes for every 1 of Dixon's, but why?

    Losses are not measured into the Heisman race, not by the rules anyways, both play for a team with strength of schedule in the top 5

    let's look at total offensive production (we'll add rushing yards and TD into Passing, because both are considered)

    QB Rank: Dixon is 6th in the nation, 160.33, Ryan is 53rd @ 131.48 Advantage Dixon

    CMP% for Dixon is 68.8%, Ryan comes in at 61% Advantage Dixon

    Dixon averages 8.4 yards/a Ryan? Only 6.8 Advantage Dixon

    Dixon has 2377 total yards, Ryan has 2449 Advantage Ryan

    Dixon has 24 total TD's, Ryan 20 Advantage Dixon

    Dixon has 3 picks, Ryan's thrown 8 Advantage Dixon

    Ducks Strength of Schedule is 5th, BC's is 2nd Advantage Ryan

    it is statistically impossible to even say that Ryan should be in the top 5, let alone the front runner. East Coast Bias rears it's ugly head yet again

    ESPN.com - NCF - College Football
     
  2. pissedoffsol

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    everyone knows east coast > west coast.

    even biggie knew that. :D
     
  3. Cashizslick

    Cashizslick !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!

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    Yeah? And look where it got him.
     
  4. pissedoffsol

    pissedoffsol RETIRED

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    shot IN cali.

    fucking west cost ruined rap. :(
     
  5. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    west coast invented modern rap

    before NWA rap sucked

    compton bish!
     
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    and look where it got easy e.:ph34r:
     
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    Everyone knows that the Heisman is a popularity contest + a stats contest.
     
  8. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    I just wish somebody would actually address how slanted the entire system is. It would have been easy for the Ducks to do it in 2001 after they finished 2nd in the nation and didn't get to play for the national title (Nebraska played was got their ass handed to them, the Ducks played in the Fiesta and handed Colorado their ass). But Bellotti took the high road, probably because he feared is he spoke out the Ducks would be black balled

    it's bullshit, somebody needs to say it is
     
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    What do you suggest? a would like to see a 16 field or 32 team playoff that is 4 or five extra games. They do if for basketball they could do it for football. If anyone bitches about adding more games there are two simple solutions lower amount of non conference games and start playing the tourney right after the regular season ends.
     
  10. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    the current schedule is fine. add an eight team national tourney with the first Round being the Orange, Rose, Sugar and Fiesta Bowl, Semi finals for the final four, then the national title

    all the Holiday bowls, Gator Bowls, Emerald Bowl Ect would still exist for teams who don't make the tourney.

    you actually only add two games (the final four). Then move pro football's schedule back one month and you have football season from Aug-March :)
     
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    Do you think that the sports gods really give a shit about the left coast other than cali?

    Your areas don't generate enough revenue and aren't densely populated enough for your opinions to hold equal weight as those in major cities.

    Frankly I think Tebow is better than both Dixon and Ryan and that he competes in a much more difficult conference than Oregon or BC.
     
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    I see no hymans in this thread.
     
  13. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    You are right about his numbers, the SEC isn't stronger then the Pac-10 this year though. The Pac-10 actually has a winning non conference record on the SEC and the Big-12. The Pac-10 is tragically underrated, ESPN did a whole column on it in fact I still have the visual aid from it

    observe

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    as you can see the Pac-10 was underrated at +60.5 points, the next most under rated conference was the Big East at less then 1/6th of the score +9. This makes the Pac-10 almost 7 times more underrated then the next most underrated conference. Oregon is also the 3rd most underrated team in the last ten years, in fact two Pac-10 Teams and a WAC team make up the top three. All west coast teams... While the overrated top 10 are mostly ACC, SEC, and Big-10... with a sprinkling of Big-12. 6 or 7 (if you count the buckeyes as east coast) are east coast teams.

    This is the AP poll we're talking about. This mathematically proves my point
     
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  14. BigJ

    BigJ I'm just about that action Boss. VIP

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    I agree with Silverchild.



    Pac-10 Is completely under rated.
     
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