Farain0w3n3d 9/11

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This is going to be the most interesting voting time in US history. What with so much evidence and clever rhetoric to take us from the Bush administration, and so much intelligent counter-argument against his competition. I predicted in 2000 that that would be the last democratic election in US history. I predicted that before the next election there will be a martial law "President for Life" maneuver, or the people would seriously revolt. It still remains to be seen.


-> Steve
 
oh but you didnt' know it's a "documentary" bs fat ass suprised that liberal pussy hasn't had his ass wooped yet
 
One question:

Have any of you that have posted above seen the movie?

And seeing the reaction of the majority of people, anyone attempting to go after MM would get mobbed. Severely.

Anyway, I took a glance at what the guy had to say, and I can see that he circles around the facts like a Mexican hat dance.

For example:

The film shows CBS and CNN calling Florida for Al Gore. According to the narrator, “Then something called the Fox News Channel called the election in favor of the other guy….All of a sudden the other networks said, ‘Hey, if Fox said it, it must be true.’â€

...
At 10:00 p.m., which network took the lead in retracting the premature Florida result? The first retracting network was CBS, not Fox.


Ummm... when did Moore say that Fox was the first one to break it? However, Fox DID call it in favor of Bush. And we know whose pocket Fox is in, don't we? The same one the Conservative Broadcasting Station is in

…Michael Moore shows a clip of CNN analyst Jeffrey Toobin saying that if ballots had been recounted in Florida after the 2000 presidential vote, “under every scenario Gore won the election.â€

What Moore doesn’t show is that a six-month study in 2001 by news organizations including The New York Times, the Washington Post and CNN found just the opposite. Even if the Supreme Court had not stopped a statewide recount, or if a more limited recount of four heavily Democratic counties had taken place, Bush still would have won Florida and the election.


Bush: 2,924,588

Gore: 2,924,695

This is if all votes were recounted, all 'chads' were optically read to indicate a vote, AND if all disenfranchised voters who were done so wrongly were counted. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_2000)

And isn't having the person who is doing your campainging in Florida do the vote counting some sort of conflict of interest?

Anyway, it's a given that ANYTHING can be spun to the advantage of the person who presents it. Moore did some spinning of his own. The Bush administration has been spinning so much that the majority of the country is vomiting from dizziness.

One surefire thing F911 has done is get a shitload of people to the voting booths.

BTW: If you're interested in actually seeing the movie, go download a copy. Moore and Lion's Gate Films fully approve it.
 
He even said its all just his opinion on the whole thing, his take on it. from information he recieved. its not all going to be entirely true or be subjective at all....duh
 
Originally posted by MaaseyRacer@Jul 6 2004, 02:53 PM
So wait what that guy is saying is that only 97% of that movie is accurate?

100% of the info given is true. However people can't seem to quit mixing that in with his questions and personal ideas.
 
Originally posted by FFCiv@Jul 6 2004, 05:54 PM
its supposed to be a documentary

Not from what he said on about 5 different shows, I think CBS was the one I saw it on.
 
He lists all his sources for the movie on his web site, so it is a documentry, and he spends a lot of time and money into researching his sources. Also if you watch his movie, you will realize that he is also talking about the web of lies in the media, and how there is a spin in main stream media, and a very corperate agenda. You can believe what he has to say or not, he is not forcing anyone onto his opinions, however he is making some very valid points on the state of this country, this countries leadership, and where this country is standing in the rest of the world.
 
You guys don't have to like Michael Moore, but you should listen to what he is saying. Our friends are dying in Iraq for what? To free the country? To get rid of an evil dictator? To disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction? Or to invade a country and take control of one of the largest oil reserves in the world? You decide, but its funny still haven't seen any of those "weapons of mass destruction"
 
Originally posted by projectxspeed@Jul 7 2004, 10:00 AM
Our friends are dying in Iraq for what? To free the country? To get rid of an evil dictator? To disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction? Or to invade a country and take control of one of the largest oil reserves in the world? You decide, but its funny still haven't seen any of those "weapons of mass destruction"




:withstupid: thank you


its all about the oil and we are still getting the shaft on gas prices
we need to remember how the Bush family made thier money to begin with
 
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