Freedom of what?

[Sabz5150]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/01/31/st...t.ap/index.html

I would line them up and smack them all in the face.

This is sad, very sad.

 

[Citizen_Insane]

Read my member title.

Thats right. I hate you America and after I've taken what I can from you, I plan on leaving. Eat it. I'm done with this topic.

 

[b204dr]

see you later - i still have all my freedoms! go to some other country and try this shit and it will do more than land you in jail!

 

[Sabz5150]

Originally posted by b204dr@Jan 31 2005, 03:07 PM
see you later - i still have all my freedoms! go to some other country and try this shit and it will do more than land you in jail!

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Actually no. Dissent is welcomed in many places.

Bush was the one who said "There ought to be limits to freedom".

Let me make that a bit bigger so you can see it.

"THERE OUGHT TO BE LIMITS TO FREEDOM"

Still think you have *all* your freedoms? Seeing that during the inaugural parade you could not look at the president, I think not.

 

[Guy]

Originally posted by Sabz5150@Jan 31 2005, 02:51 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/01/31/st...t.ap/index.html

I would line them up and smack them all in the face.

This is sad, very sad.

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Exactly why in addition to a high school history class I'm going to try to have a government class as well.

 

[ahedau]

maybe they're just tired of seeing it abused

 

[Sabz5150]

Originally posted by ahedau@Jan 31 2005, 06:33 PM
maybe they're just tired of seeing it abused

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Like the second amendment?

 

[xj0hnx]

Originally posted by ktanaka@Jan 31 2005, 09:04 PM
Read my member title.

Thats right. I hate you America and after I've taken what I can from you, I plan on leaving. Eat it. I'm done with this topic.

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Could you make it snappy though?

Did it occure to you that there are something you can say, buit just shouldn't, and maybe there are some people in the world that don't like them and now they don't think you should say them at all?

Actually, I would like to slap them all too, but hey, they can say and think what they want right? Don't tread into hypocrisy waters now.

 

[Guy]

Originally posted by 92b16vx@Jan 31 2005, 08:00 PM
Actually, I would like to slap them all too, but hey, they can say and think what they want right? Don't tread into hypocrisy waters now.

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I dont seem to recal anybody suggesting that the government should censure these kids.

 

[ahedau]

Originally posted by Sabz5150+Jan 31 2005, 07:02 PM-->

ahedau

@Jan 31 2005, 06:33 PM
maybe they're just tired of seeing it abused  

[post=454050]Quoted post[/post]​

Like the second amendment?

[post=454082]Quoted post[/post]​

I can make that argument too, yeah.

edit: I can see it now.....

"Thanks to your friends at the A.L.C.U. we now have one stop shopping 'cause Wal-mart now carries kiddie porn & assualt weapons"

 

[ahedau]

Originally posted by Guy+Jan 31 2005, 08:39 PM-->

92b16vx

@Jan 31 2005, 08:00 PM
Actually, I would like to slap them all too, but hey, they can say and think what they want right? Don't tread into hypocrisy waters now.

[post=454158]Quoted post[/post]​

I dont seem to recal anybody suggesting that the government should censure these kids.

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only the ones with neoconservative tendancies

 

[Guy]

Originally posted by ahedau+Jan 31 2005, 08:47 PM-->

Originally posted by Guy@Jan 31 2005, 08:39 PM
92b16vx

@Jan 31 2005, 08:00 PM
Actually, I would like to slap them all too, but hey, they can say and think what they want right? Don't tread into hypocrisy waters now.

[post=454158]Quoted post[/post]​

I dont seem to recal anybody suggesting that the government should censure these kids.

[post=454180]Quoted post[/post]​

only the ones with neoconservative tendancies

[post=454187]Quoted post[/post]​

*ahem* let me amend that to specify us "liberals"

 

[Celerity]

Originally posted by Sabz5150+Jan 31 2005, 03:13 PM-->

b204dr

@Jan 31 2005, 03:07 PM
see you later - i still have all my freedoms! go to some other country and try this shit and it will do more than land you in jail!

[post=453918]Quoted post[/post]​

Actually no. Dissent is welcomed in many places.

Bush was the one who said "There ought to be limits to freedom".

Let me make that a bit bigger so you can see it.

"THERE OUGHT TO BE LIMITS TO FREEDOM"

Still think you have *all* your freedoms? Seeing that during the inaugural parade you could not look at the president, I think not.

[post=453920]Quoted post[/post]​

While running for President, and still as Governor of Texas, George Bush responded to comments posted on the site "www.gwbush.com" that bashed him with outright lies.

Bush responded, jokingly "Well, hah, There ought to be limits to freedom!" to which everyone laughed and continued on with dinner.

People take this shit way too seriously.

-> Steve
Resident professor of Bushisms.

 

[ahedau]

Originally posted by Celerity@Jan 31 2005, 10:05 PM


People take this shit way too seriously.

-> Steve
Resident professor of Bushisms.

[post=454249]Quoted post[/post]​

AMEN!

I've been reformed...

(kinda )

 

[Sabz5150]

Originally posted by Celerity+Jan 31 2005, 10:05 PM-->

Originally posted by Sabz5150@Jan 31 2005, 03:13 PM
b204dr

@Jan 31 2005, 03:07 PM
see you later - i still have all my freedoms! go to some other country and try this shit and it will do more than land you in jail!

[post=453918]Quoted post[/post]​

Actually no. Dissent is welcomed in many places.

Bush was the one who said "There ought to be limits to freedom".

Let me make that a bit bigger so you can see it.

"THERE OUGHT TO BE LIMITS TO FREEDOM"

Still think you have *all* your freedoms? Seeing that during the inaugural parade you could not look at the president, I think not.

[post=453920]Quoted post[/post]​

While running for President, and still as Governor of Texas, George Bush responded to comments posted on the site "www.gwbush.com" that bashed him with outright lies.

Bush responded, jokingly "Well, hah, There ought to be limits to freedom!" to which everyone laughed and continued on with dinner.

People take this shit way too seriously.

-> Steve
Resident professor of Bushisms.

[post=454249]Quoted post[/post]​

Speaking of things you shouldn't say... Would this be an "abuse" of the first amendment?

Also, the whole Swift Boat Veterans fiasco was filled with blatant lies, where was that 'limits to freedom' then?

Freedom belongs to all who say the right things.

 

[xj0hnx]

Originally posted by Guy+Feb 1 2005, 02:39 AM-->

92b16vx

@Jan 31 2005, 08:00 PM
Actually, I would like to slap them all too, but hey, they can say and think what they want right? Don't tread into hypocrisy waters now.

[post=454158]Quoted post[/post]​

I dont seem to recal anybody suggesting that the government should censure these kids.

[post=454180]Quoted post[/post]​

No, but wanting to bash them for what they say is one step closer.

 

[ahedau]

Originally posted by Sabz5150@Jan 31 2005, 10:23 PM
Freedom belongs to all who say the right things.

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I thought Freedom belonged to the victors? No....wait that's "spoils"

Freedom is written by the victors. No... that's "history"

I think freedom can best be defined by those that don't have it and not by us who are spoiled by it, who spit in the face of it, who scorn the sacrifice of those that fought to insure that we have it all the while espousing why "we" have the "right" answers and the other is an ignorant boob.

So, let's see if 92b16vx can find an Iraqi to give us their definition of freedom as they are just beginning to drink of it and are not yet drunk with it.

my .02

 

[xj0hnx]

Originally posted by ahedau+Feb 1 2005, 04:45 AM-->

Sabz5150

@Jan 31 2005, 10:23 PM
Freedom belongs to all who say the right things.

[post=454260]Quoted post[/post]​

So, let's see if 92b16vx can find an Iraqi to give us their definition of freedom as they are just beginning to drink of it and are not yet drunk with it.

my .02

[post=454279]Quoted post[/post]​

Well, they say a picture is worth a thousand words, when I DL my camera in the next couple days, I'll post an encyclopedia.

 

[ahedau]

Originally posted by 92b16vx+Jan 31 2005, 10:50 PM-->

Originally posted by ahedau@Feb 1 2005, 04:45 AM
Sabz5150

@Jan 31 2005, 10:23 PM
Freedom belongs to all who say the right things.

[post=454260]Quoted post[/post]​

So, let's see if 92b16vx can find an Iraqi to give us their definition of freedom as they are just beginning to drink of it and are not yet drunk with it.

my .02

[post=454279]Quoted post[/post]​

Well, they say a picture is worth a thousand words, when I DL my camera in the next couple days, I'll post an encyclopedia.

[post=454282]Quoted post[/post]​

this paleo-con is waiting with bated breath

 

[Celerity]

Originally posted by Sabz5150@Jan 31 2005, 10:23 PM

Also, the whole Swift Boat Veterans fiasco was filled with blatant lies, where was that 'limits to freedom' then?

Freedom belongs to all who say the right things.

[post=454260]Quoted post[/post]​

I don't get where you're coming from in this one. I wont necessarily defend either side of the table, but I can tell you that 4 months and 3 purple hearts is a bit fishy.

-> Steve

As far as what's on topic - I've seen worse from today's students. Shit, I saw worse from students in my days. History lessons on the high school levels has always been abyssmal, to say the least. Today, with the empowerment of the Internet, kids are just saying more grown-up sounding shit than before. They will back up their illegitimate reasoning with mis-quotes and non-sense rhetoric. Usually, they all put a liberal twist on it because MTV, CNN, and all the pop culture outlets happen to be biased, unabashedly.