well, today i bought some skunk2 stage 1 cams to replace the ctr's i have in my head now. I will be taking out the CTR's on the weekend march 8-9. The cams were installed in my car in August and they were new. they have about 10,000 miiles on them now, so still pretty new. i want $450 shipped to your door for them, price is negoiatable.