1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Good Engine for Turbo?

Discussion in 'Forced Induction' started by Circuit, Oct 7, 2003.

  1. Circuit

    Circuit Member

    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2003
    Location:
    MA, USA
    Here's my situation. I have a 94 Integra LS and I want to give the thing some power. So here what it comes down too... I have about 10k to spend on engine, turbo, and everything needed to get the thing running smoothly. What is the best way to go? Ls/Vtec build, 18C1, 18c5? I'm lost and a newb, HELP!
     
  2. liquid00meth

    liquid00meth Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,201
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2002
    Location:
    Laconia, NH
    turbo your LS. rebuild and sleeve the bottom end and do a full custom kit w/hondata from http://www.ks-motorsports.com.

    I believe you would be incredibly happy with the results. You already have a good motor to boost, so there is no sense wasting almost half your dough just to get a VTEC motor.
     
  3. kyleirwin

    kyleirwin Retired OG

    Messages:
    2,420
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2002
    Location:
    Vegas
    you spelled it right, guess they're just switching sames :shrug2: .

    and yeah, i'm with liquid, except, i'd get a vtec head. sleeves, rods, pistons, valve train, exhaust, cat, hondata, and if you have enough a full-race turbo kit instead of the maxrev one that ks-motorsports carrys. good luck.
     
  4. liquid00meth

    liquid00meth Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,201
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2002
    Location:
    Laconia, NH
    the ks-kits custom kits, not their "bolt on" kits or whatever.
     
  5. kyleirwin

    kyleirwin Retired OG

    Messages:
    2,420
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2002
    Location:
    Vegas

    it's still just a maxrev or revhard (whatever they have) kit, where you can pick your turbo or upgrade your DP or sumpin'. it is a good deal, but it's still a log style manifold and not near the quality of a full-race kit.
     
  6. liquid00meth

    liquid00meth Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,201
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2002
    Location:
    Laconia, NH
    indeed. I definitely do support the full race kit as the most badass, if you can swing the dough.
     
  7. Circuit

    Circuit Member

    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2003
    Location:
    MA, USA


    Sounds good... I think that's what I'll do. Any suggestions on what vtec head to get? and as for the sleeves, rods, pistons, valve train... if you can suggest some good manufacturers that would be great. I have like 3 grand in the bank already and I wanna start using it, unfortunately I'm new to engine building and have no idea what's good. :(
     
  8. preluderjs

    preluderjs Senior Member

    Messages:
    701
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2002
    Location:
    san diego
    Unless your really going all out race prep, I dont see the need for you to buy a VTEC head, I think you'll be happy with just a big boost on your B18b if you build it up right. Building a LS/VTEC right isnt cheap. I think I heard of someone spending north of 6000 to get it done so the bottom end had the rev capabilities and other parts for it to work.
     
  9. Circuit

    Circuit Member

    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2003
    Location:
    MA, USA
    how does the vtec head help anyways?
     
  10. kyleirwin

    kyleirwin Retired OG

    Messages:
    2,420
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2002
    Location:
    Vegas

    6k is rediculous. he already has the block, he is already going to upgrade the internals in both the block and head, only additional cost of going with a vtec will be the price of the vtec head itself, a vtec ecu and the needed oil lines.
     
  11. kyleirwin

    kyleirwin Retired OG

    Messages:
    2,420
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2002
    Location:
    Vegas

    it flows about a gazillion times better than the LS head. it also gives you a much better powerband by having two cam profiles, one for low/midrange revs, and a high rpm lobe for mass power y0.
     
  12. Circuit

    Circuit Member

    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2003
    Location:
    MA, USA
    wow, that helps a lot... thx!!!
     
  13. pissedoffsol

    pissedoffsol RETIRED

    Messages:
    49,693
    Likes Received:
    53
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2002
    Location:
    Retirement Home
    i think #1, is to think about downtime.

    buy a beater for 500-1000 bucks.

    that will let you not have to worry about how long it takes you to get the motor work, swap, etc done. it takes a while.

    #2- sleeve the ls bottom end. bensons and rsmachines rock. $1000 + $1500 in parts/pistons/rods/labor

    #3 - full race kit. $4000
    #4 - hondata, injectors, dyno time, tuner- $1500
    #5 - misc shit like 3" exhaust, gauges, fuel pumps, etc... $1000-$2000

    owning just about anything that wants a piece, priceless.

    THEN, and only then, if you think its not fast enough for you, would I consider doing the ls/vtec conversion.
     
  14. kyleirwin

    kyleirwin Retired OG

    Messages:
    2,420
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2002
    Location:
    Vegas

    bah, but what do you know :p .
     
  15. pissedoffsol

    pissedoffsol RETIRED

    Messages:
    49,693
    Likes Received:
    53
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2002
    Location:
    Retirement Home
    i know that 350 whp is stupid fast on the street. and thats EASY to hit with out a vtec head
     
  16. kyleirwin

    kyleirwin Retired OG

    Messages:
    2,420
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2002
    Location:
    Vegas

    woah, your sol is gonna be REALLY stupid then.
     
  17. pissedoffsol

    pissedoffsol RETIRED

    Messages:
    49,693
    Likes Received:
    53
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2002
    Location:
    Retirement Home
    im tuning on 15 pounds. i don't care what power level i make.
     
  18. Circuit

    Circuit Member

    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2003
    Location:
    MA, USA

    sounds good... I never thought about changing the head after I do the turbo...

    is something like taht street legal though? I wanna actually pass inspection :)
     
  19. pissedoffsol

    pissedoffsol RETIRED

    Messages:
    49,693
    Likes Received:
    53
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2002
    Location:
    Retirement Home
    well, that depends on where you live....

    cali, head swaps are illegal, as are 99% of turbo setups.

    where are you from?
     
  20. Circuit

    Circuit Member

    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2003
    Location:
    MA, USA
    I'm from the gay state of massachusetts :angry:
     
Verification:
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page