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Discussion in 'Prelude' started by thehig1@msn.com, Dec 4, 2008.

  1. thehig1@msn.com

    thehig1@msn.com New Member

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    Driving by the new local Honda dealership I stopped in and asked what it would cost to do an alignment on my 4ws 3g(car has 130,000 miles) They told me $135.00 for alignment, balancing and rotating. I decided to get it done. Seemed like a fair price. I was able to watch the mechanic do the work from the waiting area which over looks the service area. He had the rear lock tool and seemed to really take his time and checked things twice.

    After he was done i got to speak to him briefly. He said that I needed a lot of suspension work. Said the CAs where shot and boots were tore on the rear. Said probably $2000.00 worth of work.

    Well since I am now an out of work for the winter golf instructor, that ain't gonna happen.So I am hoping to do some if not all of the work myself.

    After reading the End All Bushing thread. I have decided to order the Prothane PT8 907 (2) for the lower and PT8 213 (2) for the upper CA

    I am assuming when he said they where shot that its the bushings and not the metal arms themselves (hopefully) It doesn't seem to be that hard of a job other pressing the old ones out. Is it just a matter of removing the wheel and be able to take both CAs off ?

    Also when he refers to the "boots" what exactly was he talking about? Ball joint bushings? tie rod ?
    Any help would be appreciated.
    Thanks
    I have the service manual and have been looking at it and these are just some of the questions I have
     
  2. 1Funryd

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    Aren't you a member on pp.com as well? Anyways, if you know anything about your 4WS then you would know that the only boots he is talking about is the boots on the rear steering rack, let me show you a picture:
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    Its that boot you see between the tie rod and ther main housing. But he could be also talking about the front rack as well, so verify that.

    Sean
     
  3. thehig1@msn.com

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    yeah sean i am on pp, but could not post there last night for some reason
     
  4. BrutalB83

    BrutalB83 Brutal Moderator Moderator VIP

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    Control arms shouldn't be too difficult. You may want to verify with your mechanic what he meant about replacing them. If he just meant the bushings (like you said), then yes, just buy yourself some new bushings, take the control arms off, and then take them to a machine shop with a press to have the old bushings pushed out and the new ones pressed in. I did this on my Integra, cost me $20 cash at the machine shop. Certainly better then 2 grand at the dealer.

    Also, I don't know if anyone makes after-market control arms for the 3g Preludes, but you could look into that also. Typically they come with bushings already in place...
     
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    There is one company that makes aftermarket control arms, but I am working with them to make it right, because right now they hit the chassis at full compression.

    As for the bushings on the Upper Control Arms, yes you will need to have the old ones pressed out and you can upgrade to polyurethane bushings.

    I have discovered that the Prothane 8-205 of the 8-213 Upper Control Arm Bushing kit for the 94-96 Accords fit perfectly and do not need to be pressed back in.

    Here is a shot of a set on my Lude:
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    Sean
     
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