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  1. Z6CRX

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    Ok.

    Does anyone have any recommendations on pursuing someone who who sold your house to, that wrote fraudulent checks and will not do anything to pay you the roughly $40,000.00 in bounced checks. Unfortunately my mom did not do anything other than the title signed over, and take the checks over to the back.

    I'm looking for specific solutions not just general ask around doing that right now.

    Only thing i can do is take them to court that I can think of so far and its not going to be small claims since it is most likely well over the limit.
    I'm in central PA if that helps.
     
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    I would go to the state police immediately.
     
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    i was just thinking that once i posted
    tell them they committed fraud and give them the evidence.
     
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    keep all the originals
    just bring copies of the evidence

    how long ago did the transaction take place?
    are the people living in the house right now?

    i'll assume you didn't get a lawyer/contracts when you sold the house?

    your main goal right now is to get a complaint on record and ask them how you should proceed
    might save you some money in legal fees starting with the police
     
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    nope no lawyers or contracts. and yes. keeping the originals. already have the copies ready.

    house was sold on Saturday, gave the checks. They then called up on Monday saying their bank messed up and transposed a number on a check they were to receive so funds were not in one of the accounts. Told them the checks were already deposited.

    Checks bounced yesterday evening. Called the buyers up. They are not going to do anything.
     
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    pretty much.

    they will eventually take a lien on the house. you will eventually just get the house back.
     
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    bastards.

    Just temped to pay a "visit" directly where they live though,:ph34r: and not the place they just bought.
     
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    when you say they aren't going to do anything, what exactly do you mean?
    did they say to redeposit?
    did they say the bank should fix the problem?
    you might want to start at their bank and see if they made a mistake

    i'm curious as to what exactly they said when you called about the bounced checks
     
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    I'm curious why the heck you would take a check for 40 large and not wait until it clears the bank, to sign over a title.
     
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    Well since it is my mom that sold her place and the mostly in contact, harder to say
    The bank apparently wont let a redeposit go through, and the buyers stated that the will not pay the money that is owed. But we have not contacted the other bank yet.

    Only problem on the lien part is there was none written the title and was transferred to them before the checks went through, or bounced for the matter.
     
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    This case kinda is like those Nigerian scams where they buy you're stuff. and send you a bad money order or something like that.

    Only thing you do then is just contact the authorities and try to get them to go to their residence, but in this case you have their home address.
     
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    thats what i'm wondering to. i wouldn't take a check for $2500 when i sold my civic. i wouldn't trust a check for $100, let alone 40k.

    this is how people get scammed.
     
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    how many witnesses do you have to the verbal agreement?
     
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    Technically only between my mother and the guy that bought it.
    But there is a nice long list of emails between the two discussing the price.

    Unfortunately I know how easily emails can be fabricated. But I'm not too sure on ways to authenticate them.
     
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    well, the emails, the verbal agreement, and then the check should serve as proof that both parties accepted the agreement...

    i think you have a strong stand
    talk to their bank asap, if you get no where then go to the police
    i wouldn't wait on this at all
    who knows if they're gonna try and sell it since they appear to be holding a clear title
     
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    that would be quite possibly the stupidest thing you have done or will ever do in your life, and would immediately ruin any chance of getting the situation handeled favorably through legal means

    if you want to fuck them up after the case is finished, I'm all for that... but you already fucked up and posted about it on the internet

    first rule of things like this is: NO ONE else is to know about it EVER! (or at very least until the statute of limitations runs out)... if anyone else knows about it, its no longer a secret... and that means your silly ass is going to get caught

    second rule is: be patient... if the situation requiring revenge happened recently, that means you are going to be fresh in their mind and will be at or near the top of their list of people who might have done something to them... if you wait (length of time depends on how serious the offense was... the more serious the longer you wait) the chance of them pissing off someone else in that time rises, keeping the focus off of you, if they even remember you at that point... the longer you wait the better your chance of getting away with it

    third rule: dont fucking identify yourself to them (unless you are making damn certain that they or anyone else within earshot will be unable to pass that information along... ill let you figure out what that means)... this is not the fucking movies, you don't remind them of the incident X years ago and have them look at your face with a remembering look in their eye as terror seeps over them... it doesn't fucking work that way... you come out of nowhere, you say absolutely nothing, you inflict your predetermined punishment upon them, you leave silently... you don't want them to know why they are being punished... if they don't know who or why they are more likely to not retaliate (or at least not against you)... and if you do the job right , they will be afraid to ever do anything wrong to anyone again

    fourth rule: get rid of anything used in the retaliation... that means everything... the shoes, the pants, the shirt, the gloves, the mask, the hat, the socks, the drawers, anything you touched or anything that touched them... and dont just wad it all up in the garbage can behind your house
    go to a remote location, if it will burn, burn it... if it wont burn but will melt, melt it... get fucking rid of EVERYTHING
     
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    E....you scare me
     
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    LMAO

    i was joking.. temping. But its more fun to see what actually happens in court on this if it comes to that. Reason i stated it cause I will not do that in the first place. I am too lazy to drive down anywhere. Leave it for the actual one that is getting scammed because its a family member.
    Thanks for the advice though ^_^
     
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    no need to be scared of me... I'm a peaceful, fun loving person :)
     
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