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Discussion in 'General Tech and Maintenance' started by austin20110, Nov 23, 2008.

  1. austin20110

    austin20110 New Member

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    Ok so got a 96 civic OBD2
    What I want is a gsr.
    Here comes the problem
    I would like to use hmotorsonline.com, but all I can find is OBD1, which is the 94-97 GSR
    From my understanding the only OBD2 gsr's are the 97-01.

    So basically what im asking is where would you guys get the motor from. And am I wrong about any of this?

    EDIT:
    Should i just convert it all to OBD1, thats just replacing the ecu, right?

    Been trying to understand this ecu shit but its soo confusing, been reading for like 2 weeks.

    EDIT 2:
    Should I just get this:
    http://rywire.com/store/9600-civic-....html?osCsid=fc06caede697490eb16b89220572a333
    http://rywire.com/store/obd2a-obd1-....html?osCsid=fc06caede697490eb16b89220572a333
    Would that take care of the OBD issue's?
     
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    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    call HMotorsOnline.... talk to Steve... tell him you need an OBD-2 GSR swap... he will give you the price... pay him... get your engine in about a week... put the bitch in your car
     
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    word... that placeis great my buddy got a type r motor from them and it was awesome
     
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    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    SLOWdelawareEG my cars go fast

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    +1 rywire is the shit:D. modify your harness yourself for that "ghetto fab-spaghetti-hell" kinda look, or spend $200 and have your swap come out factory clean

    if hmotors doesnt have an obd2 b18c in stock, why not just convert the obd1 motor

    also, if you HAVE to have an obd2 motor, and hmotors cant come through, http://www.elitejdm.com/ call and ask for nick. he'll strap you up
     
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    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    i modded my stock D16Z6 harness to work on my 01 B18C\R swap... looks completely factory... if you have some skill working with wiring and spend a little time making sure it looks and fits good it will come out fine... if you have no skills then sure you will get spaghetti... it cost me nothing to mod my own harness
     
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    because from what i read its illegal to go backwards in obd, and i definatly dont want to get my car impounded or anything of the sort because i broke a stupid law.

    And thanks for the website +1
     
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    you've got it wrong.. 96-98 is obd2a.. 99-01 is obd2b ... call them and ask for a obd2a GSR swap ..
     
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    so who wants to give me alittle bit of a crash course in obd... not asking for a complete hand out, just confused about them and how the relate to ecu, if they do at all lol
     
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    bump my old thread

    so i have obd2 now, so when i get obd2 gsr all i have to do is get the wiring harness form rywire and it will be plug and play right?

    Another problem is that i was told to get a basemap form pherable.net and all that have is for obd1 and hondata is only for obd1 so how would i go about doing all this.

    Been lookig for some obd forums all morning cant really find any that can help me... sorry i sound like such a noob
     
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    lol bumping like its a fs thread
     
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    YBLEGAL Regular Member w/ Cheese

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    Each OBD version has a different ecu. They are not directly compatible.

    If you plan on keeping the motor stock, stay with OBD2a. You need the corresponding OBD2a ecu and you can use your stock harness. No rywire necessary there.

    If you ever plan on tuning it, you should go OBD1 as it's the most viable tuning platform at this time unless you go K-series. If you go OBD1 it's best to get a conversion harness from rywire. I did for a while and ended up rewiring my whole engine harness in my OBD2b 2000 Civic with OBD1 JDM B16; so I can say wiring the whole thing is not that hard. Just size up lengths of wire, and have a harness you can cut up and use the plugs from. Do a good soldering job and heatshrink all the joints. If that doesn't sound like fun, buy the conversion harness.

    Going OBD2a would be easier, but really can't tune it effectively.
     
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    OK so when i get finally get my motor get a obd1 and a obd1 ecu and the wrining harness from rywire and i should be set right.. the only thing that confuses me is because its obd2 now... omg i sound like a noob
     
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    YBLEGAL Regular Member w/ Cheese

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    O yeah and as far as law goes, it's illegal in my county to do a backwards OBD conversion. Butt fuckit. lol. I don't care. I registered it in another county. Hence my name. Luckly we have a county close by that doesn't emissions test. All my friends get away with doing that too.......
     
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    yes your right with the corresponding ecu and engine OBD specs. and further more you want the ecu that corresponds to the engine from the factory, unless you chip it in which case it must be an ecu that can run your engine's programing. And you can only chip OBD1.
     
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    YBLEGAL Regular Member w/ Cheese

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    Oh they do have the OBD2something conversion from hondata, but don't be fooled. You won't pass emissions with it. The ecu is OBD1 and does not support even half of the emissions devices the chassis is factory equipped with and also won't register with their computerized scan tool.
     
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    not all you would need.. but that would suffice for a tuning solution and has datalogging which is awesome unlike the free crome.
     
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    well im really stumped on what else i would need then
     
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