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h22 engine building ?

Discussion in 'Engine Building' started by powerdriverh22, Aug 15, 2005.

  1. powerdriverh22

    powerdriverh22 Senior Member

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    im getting ready to begin my h22 building and i was wanting some suggestions and thoughts on what i was planning.

    Im thinking....

    crower stage II cams and valve train
    skunk 2 intake mani (type s Mani???)
    mill head to 11.5:1 compression (maybe 12:1)
    Megan racing header (cheap i know) cut where it goes from 4 pipes to 2 and add a 2.5 in collector for better flow
    Bored out throttle body by jg engine dynamics
    port and polish (street/strip)
    hondata intake mani gasket

    what i have done
    hondata s200 w/p72 ecu
    centerforce dual friction clutch
    rc 440 injectors


    i would appreciate any input anyone has

    thanks a lot!!
     
  2. nismogod

    nismogod Senior Member

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    i have stage 2 cams i might be intrested in selling, part # 63422A-2
    i also would recomend the Type-S mani if its in a civic. Skunk2 mani doens't fit. i've been told.
    dont buy that header.

    good luck.
     
  3. powerdriverh22

    powerdriverh22 Senior Member

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    only reason im getting the header is because it is made out of a good stainless and im going to cut it up.....dont want to cut up a dc sports 400 dollar header. im gonna custom fabricate the megan racing header
     
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    nismogod Senior Member

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    why? that doesn't make any sense.
     
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    powerdriverh22 Senior Member

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    i can buy the megan racing header for 130 shipped and it is made out of the same material as the dc sports header i do believe.....so im buying it so i can cut up the stainless to make a better flowing header than the dc sports header without having to buy an expensive piece.

    im buying the cheap one so i dont have to buy the materials and custom fab a header of my own...i dont have that kind of time. ill put pics on here when im done
     
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    adnoh Senior Member

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    crower stage II cams and valve train - :thumbsup:

    skunk 2 intake mani (type s Mani???) - Type S, or Euro R.

    mill head to 11.5:1 compression (maybe 12:1) - Not going to happen with a milling job, and if you could, why? 11.5:1 is about as high as you can get on pump gas, and to achieve that you're going to have to go for aftermarket pistons. The 97-00 JDM Prelude SiR pistons will get you to about 11.0:1, but to get 11.5, you'll have to run a forged piston, and to run a forged piston in the H22, you have to sleeve the block.

    Megan racing header (cheap i know) cut where it goes from 2 pipes to 1 and add a 2.5 in collector for better flow - Go with something else.

    Bored out throttle body by jg engine dynamics - :thumbsup:

    port and polish (street/strip) - not really necessary, but sure.

    hondata intake mani gasket: :thumbsup:



    what i have done
    hondata s200 w/p72 ecu
    centerforce dual friction clutch
    rc 440 injectors
    + Tuning= :thumbsup:
     
  7. powerdriverh22

    powerdriverh22 Senior Member

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    ya the whole sleeving this is a bitch...i have that in the plans for later when i put nitrous to the motor and of course ill install forged pistons and rods.

    the reason for the megan racing header is because it is made of a good material and i want something cheap so i can cut it up and do a little custom fab to make it flow better....me and a buddy did the same thing to his all motor b series and we made 15 hp at the wheels. not bad for 130 bucks.
     
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    MAHLE gold series pistons. no need to sleeve.
     
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    ive never heard of those.....are they proven to work?
     
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    nismogod Senior Member

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    mahle makes formula 1 stuff. buy em through jegs, so if you ahve any problems, jegs will take care of it.
     
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    i was thinking of rebuiding my engine and was wondering if this setup would be street legal...pass smog? and how reliable it would be if this was done properly by a good mechanic...20k miles, 100k miles in your opinion?
     
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    nismogod Senior Member

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    does that matter?
     
  13. reikoshea

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    I dont know much about the Mahle pistons and how much jegs charges, but i know i saw them on ebay for 420 w/o rings...didnt check to see what shipping was.
     
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    my 93 vtec has 148xxx miles on it and i wanted to rebuild or buy new motor. How reliable would i be to only build top end?

    what if i just got type-s cams, pistons and intake manifold...got new springs and retainers and new gaskets..this would be a lot cheaper than a full rebuild...how reliable would this be?

    are the type-s cams bigger than regular h22a pistons-can the type-s cams and pistons be put into a regular h22a without modification?

    i know i can get a fully rebuilt stock engine for a couple grand:
     
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    reikoshea HS Troll...And Mod Moderator VIP

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    yes, type-s pistons and cams can be swapped into a normal H22 with no problems.
     
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    what if i just get:
    Valve/guide job
    new rings and type-s cams/pistons
    Bearings/seals
    type-s intake manifold

    will this be good enough for a reliable rebuild that will last a good 50-75k miles...how will the type-s cams and pistons really affect the performance?
    will this pass smog?
    if i get new intake manifold. is a new(larger) throttle body necessary...what about boring the throttle body opening?
    what kind of power increase will this create for me?
     
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    reikoshea HS Troll...And Mod Moderator VIP

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    new pistons and cams will probably net you around 15-20 HP. the valve job and rings will extend the life of the engine. when you pull the head check the cylinder walls for any scoring and such...if ya got it, might wanna take it to a machine shop. If you live in tx, i am friends with a guy that just does engine work, i might be able to help you.
     
  18. ferrarikiller

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    So what exactly is a "street strip" port and polish?
    You don't have to answer that.

    Honda ports from the factory are pretty nice.
    You want to tune your ports for your particular set up. If you are looking for low end I would just remouve any rough spots and go through with an emory cloth. IF yoiu are looking for a lot of top end then Maybe do some port matching.
    Also don't polish you intake ports. the smooth surface will allow fuel to tend to puddle .
     
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    i hate hondata ecu's im yet to see one dyno good. well anyway i have a H22 and dynoed 205hp w/161 torque.. this is what i have done. fuel reg. /apex vtec cont.2gen./skunk2chip sohc ex not sure the code i think p28/weapon r intake/ kamikaze header---cheap seem to give me good hp/2.5exhaust open.no cat/h22 jdm type s pistons/clutchmaster flywheel and stage 3 clutch/unorthodox pulley/ and thats it tuned. i havent seen anyone dyno my no.s yet with hondata.
     
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    there are plenty of them. If you are not making power with hondata then the tuner obviously does not know what they are doing. You just have a chipped ecu, not tuning involved in that.
     
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