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h22 into a 92 prelude si

Discussion in 'HYBRID -> BA-BB /CA-CD' started by sniezek66, Sep 6, 2004.

  1. sniezek66

    sniezek66 Member

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    Yes i was wondering what is all involved with swapping an h22 into a 92 prelude si. My buddy was alittle late on paying me fro some previous repairs so i now own his car that has a blown motor. Right now it has a h23. I just wasn't sure if i will need the power steering line and mounts like i do on the accord swaps. let me know

    kurtis
     
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    You're golden. That swap is supposedly one of the easiest swaps to do. A couple of wires for VTEC and you're there. Mounts should be the same, and the wiring should be minimal. The H23 already has a knock sensor and IAB. The O2 sensor is already located down below on the H23, and the power steering line is the same, I believe. You'd need the ECU of course.

    I'd do it in two winks. This is a worthy easy swap. :nod:
     
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    awesome better to put it in this car then the accord since the accor dmotor can be saved. So now where can i get this motor and ecu sinc ei'm going to keep the stock tranny let me know thanks

    Kurtis
     
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    Probably Ebay or Hmotorsonline.com

    Hmotors gives better deals over the phone than the website shows, so try calling them also.
     
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    ok thanks tab. Also when the times comes will you be able to show me what wires need to be wired up for this car??
     
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    also two ther quick questions. Is there that big of a difference between the usdm and jdm motors in terms of power and what price range should i be looking at for just the motor and ecu nothing else.
     
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    The JDM H22A ( 92-96 ) has 200 HP with 163 ft. lbs Torque. Also, the JDM has a higher compression ratio; 10.6:1 ratio. As for the USDM H22A ( 92 - 96 ) has 190 HP with 153 ft. lbs Torque. The compression ratio is, 10.0:1 ratio.

    I think the prices are about the same for a complete swap, which includes the complete motor, tranny, axles, and ECU. Some place charge extra for the shift linkage. Prices usually range from $2,000 to $2,500 for a swap.

    When I did my swap, I got a H22A front-clip. Basically, its a Prelude cut in half. I got mine for $2,300.
     
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    tab Super Moderator

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    200 hp, 161 ft lbs of torque for JDM H22A, the Type S is 220 HP, 163 ft lbs of torque.

    I paid $1260 to my door for the engine, and about 180 for the ECU.

    A buddy paid 1100 to his door for the engine.

    Package deals are great if you need everything.

    Wiring isn't that bad, do a search. We've answered that question a million times. I did my own swap as a NOOB, and I made it.
     
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    I know what the specs are on the motor i'm just concerned with is the 10hp difference that noticable. I can get my hands on a usdm easy then a jdm so that's why i'm asking just if there is a noticable difference between the horses. I wouldn't think so, but maybe i'm wrong.
     
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    H22A 2157 190@6800 152@5500 10.6:1 0 0 dohc yes 1 or 2 1994-1997 Accord SiR
    H22A 2157 220@7200 163@6500 11:1 87 90.7 dohc yes 2 1997-2001 Prelude Type S (JDM)
    H22A 2157 200@6800 161@5500 10.6:1 0 0 dohc yes 1 or 2 1992-1996 Prelude VTEC
    H22A1 2157 195@7000 156@5250 10.0:1 87 90.7 dohc yes 2 1997-1998 Prelude

    H22A1 2156 190@6800 158@5500 10:1 87 90.7 dohc yes 1 or 2 1994-1996 Prelude VTEC

    H23 2259 160@5800 156@4500 9.8:1 87 95 dohc no 1 1993-1995 Prelude Type S (JDM)
    H23A1 2258 160@5800 156@4500 9.8:1 87 95 dohc no 1 or 2 1992-1996 Prelude SE/Si


    I don't think the difference would be that noticeable. If you get a good deal on a USDM motor, then take it. Use the money you save to build it up, or buy some goodies. There will be a little difference, but you could make up for it by buying more aggressive cams, cam gears, dyno time, etc.
     
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    My bro just got a '92 prelude S<<<lower model, but for 1800 :)

    He's already thinking about swapping. It would be better for him to get the full changeover from hmotors right? (obd1 h22a)
    Anything to know about the mounts? The wiring is easy to figure, but I need to know about the mounts or any sensor relocation. Oh yeah...Back from the dead!!!!
     
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    Mounts should be the same. You'll need the right exhaust and downpipe. If I could put a prelude motor in an Accord, then you should have no problem putting one into a prelude. If you have the F22A, then you'll have to add VTEC and Knock sensor. You can re-use just about everything, but you may want the gear ratio and LSD from a JDM tranny. You can run a chipped P72 or P28, or get the standard P13.

    I'd swap it. The F22 is a good motor, but the H22 is SOOOO much more fun.
     
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    That's what I figured on the swap man. Thanks for the info.
     
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    Sorry to ne such a n00b
    H-series is new for me on the mount part.

    The f22 mounts are the same as the h22 mounts?
     
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    Yes, except for the driver's mount (on the F22B1's and F22B2's). Although tab has mentioned that in 90-93 Accords (F22A1), no monkeying needs to be done at all to make them work.
     
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    :werd: :)
     
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    :woot: My bro has the f22a1 in his '92 lude.
    Thanks guys.
     
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    Hi guys, nub question

    I googled this site intending to find the price for a H22... but im also interested in learning to swap engines / fix up my car on my own.


    How do i get myself started? On the basics... etc etc... please let me know! thanks.
     
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    get_nick These snozzberries taste like snozzberries... VIP

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    first:read, read, read, and read some more
    second:don't revive a thread over a year old. if you have questions, the best way is to start a new one.
    third:buys some tools and start working
    fourth:welcome...
     
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